request for testers of zuluCrypt

[menotu]

If it shows up on the menu search, then the menu is aware of it,maybe it showed up where you did not look or the menu didnt show it because it did not have a category for it.

I had thoroughly checked all the menu "folders" before posting and it definitely wasn't listed; and yes, this KDE menu structure doesn't have a "utility category"

i have updated the rpm and source rpm to make the .desktop standard compliant to remove that warning to add "utility" to the category section. Hope the icon will easily show up now.

When I have a mo' I'll open a VM and run it again and see if the menu shows the icon/entry

No joy - installed in 2 different KDE VM's  and menu entry still not appearing.

Tried all previous suggestions but again no luck...........

Just on the off chance I added the Lancelot Launcher but nope, no entry.

[muungwana]

i have modified the original post to include links to new packages.

the xdg standard for .desktop file is here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html#category-registry

mandriva menu icon standard is here: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/MenuMigrationToXDG

my original .desktop had the following line in it.

Categories=Security;Utility;Qt;

The icon should have shown on the menu since the standard says it should(those 3 categories are standard).

I just checked truecrypt.desktop file and it has this:

Categories=GTK;Settings;X-MandrivaLinux-System-Configuration-Other;

so i changed my .desktop file to be the same as that of truecrypt, only substituting "GTK" with "Qt".

The new package should therefore be more tailored to mandriva derivative like pclinuxos and it should now show up( cross my finders  ).

[pmurdia]

I got the following result:

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[root@localhost Downloads]# rpm -Uvh zuluCrypt-v4.2.0-1pclos2011.i586.rpm
Preparing...                                                          ########################################### [100%]
   1:zuluCrypt                                                        ########################################### [100%]
[root@localhost Downloads]# zuluCrypt-test
****************************
starting test
****************************

creating mount point "/tmp/testing of volumes"

creating a plain file "testing plain"
creating a luks file "testing luks"

creating a plain volume
SUCCESS: volume created successfully

opening "testing plain" volume
SUCCESS: Volume opened successfully

closing "testing plain" volume
SUCCESS: volume closed successfully

creating a luks volume
SUCCESS: volume created successfully

opening "testing luks" volume
SUCCESS: Volume opened successfully

closing "testing luks" volume
SUCCESS: volume closed successfully

check keys slots in use
30000000

add key to luks volume
SUCCESS: key added successfully

check keys slots in use
11000000

open the volume with the new key
SUCCESS: Volume opened successfully

close the volume
SUCCESS: volume closed successfully

remove newly added key
SUCCESS: key removed successfully

check keys slots in use
30000000
deleting testing files
deleting mount point "/tmp/testing of volumes"

check to see if there are any undeleted zuluCrypt-xxx mappers
all mappers are deleted, good
****************************
ending test
****************************


[muungwana]

@pmurdia,
did the icon show up on the menu?

[pmurdia]

It was showing here:

PC -> More applications -> Configuration -> zuluCrypt

I am using KDE PCLOS 6.2011 (fully updated).

I can post the icon with image but I don't know why the Print Screen is not working when I point to this icon from menu, however, Print Screen works when the mouse is pointed to the desktop.

Ty.

[muungwana]

It now shows up on the menu, thats good.

If you have any questions, concerns,comments or if you find any bug, please report them here.

[pmurdia]

Yeah sure, but right now I would just learn how to use the cryptsetup, but as a matter of information, would just like to ask is it having any bug (if)?

Further, why 'Print Screen' doesn't work when I point to the Menu option....

Thx.

[muungwana]

bugs:

in cryptsetup.
pclinuxos version of cryptsetup is in "legacy/compatibility mode". This means any plain type volume created with pclinuxos with default options will most likely not open in cryptsetup from anywhere else if it is also used with default options.

luks type volumes are not affected.

in zulucrypt.
Adding a luks key to a volume while presenting an exisiting key as a passphrase and new key as a keyfile will give a "file not found error". This error is corrected in 4.3rc1 and will be in 4.3 scheduled to be released on the 30th of this month.

I use ksnapshot to image screen capture, it can capture the entire screen, a section of the screen or a window under the cursor.

[pmurdia]

ah ty for the information, but really i am new so didn't get all of the points, but try to understand.

As if now, please tell me that I have 'KDE Screenshot Utility' already installed but for its gui, I have to install 'K Desktop Environment' invariably? (got this info via synp.)

[pmurdia]

As a matter of interest, also please let me know if one wants to uninstall zulucrypt, then whats the process? And is there any gui for truecrypt?

[muungwana]

what desktop environment are you using? if kde then ksnapshot is the best tool for image capturing of the whole screen, a particular window or a section of the screen. I am sure other desktop environments have their own native tools too.

If you install zuluCrypt using the package given here then just open synaptic and then search for it and it will be displayed, right click it and then remove it.

truecrypt has gui and cli components and they are shipped together, just installing it will give you an icon on the menu and clicking it will start the gui component.

If you are new to cryptsetup then just go with luks volumes and you will be good everywhere.

which one is better btw cryptsetup+zulucrypt against truecrypt(comparing GUI features) will depend on your use case.

truecrypt has hidden volumes which means you can hide one volume inside another, cryptsetup does not

cryptsetup's luks volume can have upto 8 different passwords, this means you can give somebody access to a volume without giving them your primary key. Truecrypt does not have this feature.

They are pretty much the same in everything else.

one downside for truecrypt is that it requires root's privileges to run and hence requires a functional sudo setup to be used in a user friendly way, zulucrypt+cryptsetup does not require a user to root privilege the application because it does it on its own. Sudo isnt very much liked here and hence truecrypt is at a disadvantage.

[pmurdia]

using kde only. ksnapshot is working but what the issue is that it doesn't work when I take snapshot of menu -> configuration or when I point my mouse to the menu, then it starts to stop work, however, I have now set the snapshot delay of say, 5 secs, so that within 5 secs, i open the menu and then use it, if have to use. But I don't think is should be the default behaviour...(that is to set the delay..)! But I have installed one more pkg, which describes itself as follows:

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K Desktop Environment
Graphical tools for the K Desktop Environment.
kdegraphics meta package to install all of the
kdegraphics packages

-gwenview
-kamera
-kcolorchooser
-kgamma
-kolourpaint
-kruler
-ksnapshot
-okular
Yeah, well I am new in crtypsetup, so using luks means I have to use it through cryptsetup only...and for which front end gui is zulucrypt.. is it like that...?

For uninstallation, yes synp. showed me the installed version of it, so simply if I click remove, it would be removed. But if I want to remove cryptsetup, it shows me a warning that other required changes would too happen, so other applications would too be affected, please see, http://postimage.org/image/6sc0dit6j/, so is it safe to remove in this way... or would I lose using other applications perfectly...?

Why I asked of truecrypt because it seems more popular and older. If truescrypt requires the root password, I guess it is a good reason and aspect as far as security is considered. So I guess (I may be wrong...!), that's not a downside...That is a different case that sudo is not liked here...

But just a more suggestion I need, why sudo is not recommended here....(I don't know...).

Thx.

[Old-Polack]

It's not sudo that is disliked, but the way it is abused by some distributions.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,90479.msg758079.html#msg758079

[muungwana]

cryptsetup is linux native solution to hard drive encryption.It is just as old as truecrypt if not older and it is more popular in linux interm of usage(IMO). All linux distros including pclinuxos uses cryptsetup if a user select to encrypt their partitions during installation.

The only thing cryptsetup did not have and truecrypt had was the GUI to control to command line backend. zuluCrypt now adds the GUI part and these two should be comparable feature wise both in cli and in gui.

If you are talking about popularity in GUI usage in linux, then yes, truecrypt is more popular, but in term of overall usage, cryptsetup is.

i think truecrypt volumes can only be used with truecrypt, cryptsetup volumes also work with cryptsetup only. They are similar in this regard.

Allow me to correct myself, truecrypt expected to be run either from root's privileged user or from a normal user with a functional sudo setup.

The first expectation should show an obvious problem, if you have multiple people on the computer who want to use it, then multiple people will have to have the root's password decreasing security. If you set up sudo for everybody to use it then whats stopping a person from pointing it to the root's partition and create a new volume on it? effectively deleting it? Less secure on both use cases.

If anybody think the above amount to spreading FUD on truecrypt then tell me and i will gladly modify my statement.

zulucrypt on the other silently elevates but will not allow creation of volumes on system partitions. System partitions are defined as partitions with active entries in "/etc/fstab" and "/etc/crypttab".

If anybody think zulucrypt behavior makes it less secure then tell me.

about ksnapshot. It has different behavior depending on scenarios. I think the default behavior is to take pictures of objects when clicked .The wait for a few seconds option is there if you want to take snapshots of things that change when clicked, like the menu. What option to use depends on what you want to do, play with it and it will become intuitive.

[pmurdia]

Yeah thx muungwana for a clear explanation, I got the idea of cryptsetup, when would implement, would get better touch with it...Good application. But its gui application, which now has been developed is a better part for home users.

Well, can you please tell me of:

But if I want to remove cryptsetup, it shows me a warning that other required changes would too happen, so other applications would too be affected, please see, http://postimage.org/image/6sc0dit6j/ so is it safe to remove in this way... or would I lose using other applications perfectly...?

And yes that post is good, old-polack, the concept of 'sudo'..