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Make SDHC Card readable - Fixed, thanks.
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:57:37 AM »
Does anyone know how to configure - or what to install - to make SDHC Camera Cards in USB-Readers open a bit quicker in current PCLOS KDE4.x....?

A 4GB SDHC card on this new PC, should open instantly - and does (3-4 sec) in XP-SP3 (dual-boot, same hardware.) Same Card Reader, in PCLOS - 8-12 minutes, sometimes... At times - over an hour, won't open.

Using an old SD - FAT16, 2GB and smaller capacity - Card Reader and a 2GB Card - that opens in 3-4 sec in current PCLOS. I have the "black-box" Devices-Available woozit-thingy set up in the Panel. If I open that before inserting the old SD Reader and 2GB card - it appears there in a few seconds.

Doing same with the SDHC reader and either 2GB or (FAT32) 4GB cards results in no results. Can't leave the "black-box" Devices thingy open as a "notifier", as it vanishes as soon as you do anything else.

Apparently KDE4.x "can" read FAT32 - it opens 4-8-16GB Flashdrives in under 5-seconds. It also opens my FAT32 formatted XHD, no-probs.

This PC probably has enough grunt to open a 4GB card quickly in Linux - AMD 6-core 2.8GHz, with 8GB Corsair DDR3 - "sees" that, using PAE kernel... The board is a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 - supposedly USB3 capable.

Any deas - would be most grateful....

Regards, Dave.
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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 02:33:59 AM »
Open a terminal,
get root:
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suand enter your password (no visible reaction) and press Enter again)

Then following command:
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tail -n -20 -f /var/log/messages
Put in your SD-card, and look what happens in the output in the terminal..... (so without opening the device notifier first, so that your problem happens)....
If something happens on the output, but the problem occurs, please copy the output of the terminal to a post in the forum...

Success  :)

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 02:50:48 AM »
welcome back Dave.. noticed you'd been away for a year now

well I am glad to see yea mad dingo  ;D
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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 04:09:45 AM »
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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 08:41:53 AM »
Rubentje1991 - No, it isn't that - it's getting the KDE4.x system to "see" the 4GB FAT32 cards at all, that's the problem. Once it deigns to "see" a card - after 8-12 minutes (but not always) - it will copy off, at about 20% of the speed it does in XP-SP3 (dual-booting on this box, so same hardware.)  The older FAT16 2GB or under SD (not SDHC) cards, used in an old SD-only card reader open immediately - well, 3-4 seconds - in either XP or KDE4.x/PCLOS.

There was a problem almost identical to this in KDE-3.5 a long time back, but it was solved in one of the system updates. I've had no problems with these cards for the last couple of years, as I'd been using the YouCanToo backup repos to stay with KDE3.5, in which everything worked exceeding-well - apart from being able to use new versions of apps.. Had been assuming that, give KDE4.x a year or two to shake-down, there'd be no hassles changing over... So with this latest new PC - changed over - and it's "like deja-vu all over again", so to say...

Scoundrel - Haven't been "away", mate - just KDE-3.5-ing - so for the last year-plus, there's been nothing to ask about or discuss on this now all-KDE4-forum. Have been dropping-in from time to time to check on the reprobates, scoundrels, and other wild-mad desperados...!  ;D

Just18 - Remarkable - you're keeping well - looking younger all the time... Been wondering how you do it....   ::) :D

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 06:09:34 AM »
Well, back in that time (kde 3.5.x), I wasn't active on the forum yet (however, was using PCLinuxOS)....7
Maybe someone from that time can remember it  ;D
(hopefully it can be fixed now too)

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 07:21:32 AM »
Well, back in that time (kde 3.5.x), I wasn't active on the forum yet (however, was using PCLinuxOS)....7
Maybe someone from that time can remember it  ;D
(hopefully it can be fixed now too)

IIRC at that time .....  2009 maybe ......  it was a general Linux situation which was eventually fixed by a kernel update -----------  if my recollection is accurate.

So maybe the cause is not the same ......  I suspect if there was a regression in the kernel that we would have heard about it before now .....  unless it requires a patch ..... ?

Just musing ........

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 11:27:44 AM »
Well - to give KDE4 the benefit of the doubt - and perhaps, after about 3 years of reading cards from 2, now 3, cameras - my Reader has developed a sad case of "tired electronics" - I'll get a newy on Friday...

One more in keeping with this modern, whizzbang, ultra-trendy KDE4.x era - a USB3 mode one...

If in Sydney I can find one for a modest price - somewhat less than a Yacht or Lambo, say....

And by next week - KDE4 will be copying-off the small (they are, these days - the 'fashionable' folk on the Camera Forums are all 32GB and up...) - full 4GB cards in about 30-seconds...  :D

Did look in Snapty - under "USB3" it doesn't list anything - perhaps it's included in the current kernel I'm on - the 2.6.38.8-pclos3.pae.bfs flavour one.

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 12:25:40 PM »
If in Sydney I can find one for a modest price - somewhat less than a Yacht or Lambo, say....

Yes, I think you'll find one  :P  ;D
And indeed, normally it's included in the kernel for several versions now....

If it transfers content that fast, I'm getting one too some day in the future  8)

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 01:11:52 PM »
doubt it'll read at usb3 speeds without the whole bridge being usb3 ...

also think I seen a post on not seeing the usb3 thing ??
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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 01:24:31 PM »
Yes it would be adviseable to read what little there is on the forum about USB3.

I am not a believer in 'tired electronic' ....... for the most part it is BS IMO.

Your device was working last week using KDE3 ....  it is working this week using XP ........  so what is getting another one going to do?

.....  maybe PCLOS might like the new type better I suppose ....

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         Do you have a setting in BIOS that could turn off all USB 3 devices?


If yes I would give that a try.
 

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 06:05:57 PM »
Rubentje1991 - The reference was actually that I'm in Sydney, Australia. In Oz - things electronic tend to cost a lot more than in the US or EU. Example - just on camera batteries - Eneloop AAs. In the US, a usual deal is a card with 8 x AAs, and 4 x AAAs, for $25.00. Here - 1 set of 4 x AA or AAA Eneloops costs $22.00 - so the US $25.00 deal would cost $66.00 here.  Online prices - a USB3 multi-card reader costing $29.95 in the US, sells for $49.95 here. (The AUD is just above parity with the USD.)

The Camera Forums are highly praising USB3 1-1.5-2TB XHDs as being excellent and very fast backups for large amounts of data - RAW images and Video - from their Vistoids, Lucky-7s, and Macs. It would be notably unfortunate if the Linux/Unix folk can't do even better...

Scoundrel - Gigabyte sells the GA-78LMT-USB3 board as being USB3 capable. I would be disamused were it not so...

Just18 - I put the term "tired electronics" in quotes, to indicate that it was actually a bit of a lend...  :D

I shall investigate the BIOS re being able to turn off the USB3 while retaining USB2... Interesting Hint - if blocking USB3 in the board 'enables' this Reader - I wonder what one then does with a mix of USB2 and USB3 devices - and a Reader that's alleged to be USB3 and USB2/1.1 backwards compatible.

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 10:52:36 PM »
just bought a new Reader - and tried it... Worked instantly, quick transfer...  ;D

Thanks for the assistance, all.

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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 04:38:39 AM »
just bought a new Reader - and tried it... Worked instantly, quick transfer...  ;D

Thanks for the assistance, all.

Regards, Dave.

Glad to hear that the new one worked  :D

......  would still wonder why PCLOS does not like the older one which apparently works elsewhere .......
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Re: Make SDHC Card quickly readable
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 08:50:48 AM »
just bought a new Reader - and tried it... Worked instantly, quick transfer...  ;D

Thanks for the assistance, all.

Regards, Dave.

Glad to hear that the new one worked  :D

......  would still wonder why PCLOS does not like the older one which apparently works elsewhere .......


me too, but I'm also glad it was sorted out  :)