Author Topic: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root [SOLVED]  (Read 5022 times)

Offline daniel

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2012, 03:02:14 AM »
Ok, i see now what is your request...

It's seem there is an bug in PCmanFM, and we have to wait for next release.

But you can test this:
Open a terminal and type
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lxsession-edit
open second tab and remove openbox .
Click on OK, and restart your session. You want now lost your window-manager, but
maybe it will now work your request.
If it, you can use an another window-manager
Compiz, you have to replace in lxsession-edit lxde to
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compiz ccp --indirect-rendering, don't forget to
have installed compiz, and to start a new session. 

See is it work, i will test it again later in my VB  ;)
Is it not working open again lxsession-edit and type
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openbox-lxde and your window-manager will back,
after relogin.

Good luck

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2012, 10:12:18 AM »
update of pcmanfm and libfm sent to dropbox hopefully it solves the problem.
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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2012, 07:00:06 PM »
I will try daniel's (new screen name?) suggestions while I wait for the pcmanfm update to filter down to me.  Good to know this wasn't something trivial.

Thanks to everyone who has participated in the effort to resolve this so far.

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2012, 07:07:22 PM »
PCManFM and libfm updates should be available on most mirrors now.     

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2012, 08:42:47 AM »
PCManFM and libfm updates should be available on most mirrors now.    

Do these have a new version number in Synaptic?  I'm not seeing anything new for these when I do a Reload.  If it helps, I'm using the heanet.ie repository, and the megagames repository.

Tried removing openbox-lxde as my window manager  (did not have "openbox" set to begin with - perhaps I should have?)

That did not go at all well.  Went to a single virtual desktop, a plain white background, and no window decorations (of course).

It's past time for me to go to bed...  see you all later this evening when I get up.  Thanks again for everything.

Later On,
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« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 08:54:57 AM by horusfalcon »
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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2012, 01:53:14 PM »
New version of PCManFM is 1.0.1. New version of libfm is 1.0.1.     

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2012, 05:34:26 PM »
New version of PCManFM is 1.0.1. New version of libfm is 1.0.1.     

Hmm... seems close enough to what I've had installed since the beginning of this issue - package name in Synaptic is:

1.0-1pclos2012 (unknown)

I did re-install the packages for pcmanfm, libfm-gtk, and libfm, just in case, but to no avail.

I have an LXDE install at work that is "frozen" (the computer does not face the network) and its install of PCManFM does not have the checkbox for "use the same wallpaper on all desktops".  I'll check the version number on it tomorrow evening when I get to work.

I will try installing compiz (without the -fusion part) again and see if I did something wrong or something has changed since three months ago. I'm thinking daniel is possibly right that, and this may be an openbox issue. 

Time to go back and check everything step by step, seeing if I overlooked something that may be relevant to the issue.  I'll jot back with my findings.

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2012, 05:55:29 PM »

Do these have a new version number in Synaptic?  I'm not seeing anything new for these when I do a Reload.  If it helps, I'm using the heanet.ie repository, and the megagames repository.


Hi,

heanet usually sync's once a week on Saturday I've found.
Haven't noticed a repo yet that sync's twice a week.

FYI, hope that helps a bit.

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2012, 05:58:48 PM »

Do these have a new version number in Synaptic?  I'm not seeing anything new for these when I do a Reload.  If it helps, I'm using the heanet.ie repository, and the megagames repository.


Hi,

heanet usually sync's once a week on Saturday I've found.
Haven't noticed a repo yet that sync's twice a week.

FYI, hope that helps a bit.

FF

Heanet used to sync twice daily ......  had not realised it changed ......

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2012, 06:05:05 PM »

Do these have a new version number in Synaptic?  I'm not seeing anything new for these when I do a Reload.  If it helps, I'm using the heanet.ie repository, and the megagames repository.


Hi,

heanet usually sync's once a week on Saturday I've found.
Haven't noticed a repo yet that sync's twice a week.

FYI, hope that helps a bit.

FF

Heanet used to sync twice daily ......  had not realised it changed ......



It could, but I've found it sync's sometime Saturday
for sure.   Always new files later Saturday and Sunday.

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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2012, 09:34:43 PM »
Hi, Gang,

I'm on my new test account now.  Presently, I'm a bit more confused than I was, I think... (so what else is new? ;) )

First, I tried compiz as a window manager from the old test account, and the results were much less than satisfactory.  Could not set more than one virtual desktop, for one, (settings made in CompizConfig Settings Manager for this would not "take".)  Reverted to openbox-lxde and all was as before, which was, at least in some measure, better than Compiz.

Here's the reason for my confusion, and the sequence of events:

NOTE:  This is all from a fresh openbox-lxde environment without the checkbox for "Show menus provided by the window manager" checked in the Advanced tab in Desktop Preferences (eliminating that as a possible interaction).

1.)  Deleted old test account - too "polluted" at this point for reliable testing.  Deleted all data/logs from this account.

2.)  Created new test account with different user name, jrandom. (Just making sure...)

3.)  Logged into jrandom user after changing session type to LXDE (i.e., did not log into KDE first).

4.)  Knocked around a bit to check basic functionality.  Desktop appears well.  PCManFM starts quickly. Closed PCManFM.

5.)  Set up four virtual desktops in Openbox Preferences, and selected the Mikachu theme. Closed all open dialogs.

6.)  Set Desktop Preferences to allow unique wallpapers (unchecking that dratted box).

7.)  Set up unique wallpapers for each of the four desktops set up in step 5. All wallpapers are displayed correctly.

8.)  Closed all open dialogs on all desktops as I went.

9.)  Started PCManFM from panel launcher - PCManFM starts and is alive and well.

10.)  At this point, I have an environment with four desktops, uniquely wallpapered, in which PCManFM works correctly.

11.)  Log out, and log back in to the jrandom user.

12.)  See the by-now-all-too-familiar brushed grey background obscuring my wallpaper.

13.)  Start PCManFM from panel launcher instead of opening Desktop Preferences just to check if it will still start before I do anything else.

13.)  PCManFM opens and, on opening, the desktop reverts to default "lxde-blue" wallpaper (grey with blue bird), and...  

14.)  Opening Desktop Preferences from LXDE-CC, settings have reverted to default wallpaper and same wallpaper for all desktops now checked, almost as if these settings had been reloaded from /etc/skel/ somewhere (but let's not make that assumption just yet - I'm not at all sure what's going on here.)

From this, it looks as though my PCManFM (or, at least, my LXDE environment) still displays the same "bug" we've been chasing, despite my having today re-installed it, libfm and libfm-gtk  after finding its packages possess the most current version number.

For the time being, my actual user account is set up with one wallpaper for all desktops, and everything else working fine.  I would have liked unique wallpapers, but I don't have to have them.  It seems it would be worth debugging this for the good of other LXDE users who might run into the same thing.  Everyone, especially Neal, has been very patient with my often-abstracted state in recent days, and I appreciate that greatly.  If you wish to continue to debug, I'm still game, but I leave that decision up to each of you.

I'll look at this again after Saturday, in case the heanet repository has not updated yet.  (I also tried the ibiblio repository today for a brief while, just to see, but went back to heanet after no improvement was noted.)

I'll check back...

Later On,
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P.S.:  It's Monday morning after work, just saw the latest PCManFM in Synaptic along with libfm and libfm-gtk.  Did a full system update while I was at it.  We'll know today whether or not this solves the problem for me.

Ja, Mata,
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« Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 07:24:38 AM by horusfalcon »
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Re: PCManFM won't start for normal user, will start for Root [SOLVED]
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2012, 07:37:00 AM »
Hello Again, Folks,

The update to PCManFM solves the problem with PCManFM not starting up, so we'll mark this one as SOLVED.

Thanks so much to everyone who got involved for everything.

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