Unable to Play Songs in Some Folders

[ms_meme]

I am using KDE with all updates and with task-LXDE.
I use both Dolphin and PCManFM depending on what I want to do.

Recently I noticed that some of my recordings that I make in Windows would not play in certain Folders in PCManFM.
All songs play wherever I put them in Dolphin.

With PCManFM, I can have a song play from a folder, but place it in another folder and it will not play. I am using SMPlayer.  If I chose to play it with Amarok (which I do not want to do,) it seems to work.

I may not have given enough information for anyone to work with, but I feel if I give more at this time, it will just get mixed up.  I have been working for an hour or so trying different things and that info may help later.

I do not know if this has been the case from the beginning .... as I usually use Dolphin.  But I just noticed it recently.  And it also happens with other songs...not just my recordings.

But perhaps there is a simple solution and I won't have to explain more.  

[Neal ManBear]

  Yes, more info is needed. When you move the files from one folder to another, do you drag and drop? Copy and paste? Use the cp command? Use the mv command? Which folders are you using? Are you using right or left mouse click?

Have you tried mplayer? VLC? Clementine?

Use this command to open one this isn't playing in a terminal:     

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smplayer /home/<your-user-name>/<your-folder-name>/song-name.extension     

Use the full path to your song, please. Post any output.     

[ms_meme]

Yes, more info is needed. When you move the files from one folder to another, do you drag and drop? Copy and paste? Use the cp command? Use the mv command? Which folders are you using? Are you using right or left mouse click?

Have you tried mplayer? VLC? Clementine?

Use this command to open one this isn't playing in a terminal:     

Code: [Select]

smplayer /home/<your-user-name>/<your-folder-name>/song-name.extension     

Use the full path to your song, please. Post any output.     

First of all....I have been up for 2 hours working on this.    Just want you to know I don't post for help without first exploring on my own.  I had written a long long write up yesterday and wrote another one this morning trying desperately to explain what is happening without weaving a coat of many colors.

I think I have solved it but time will tell. 

I have the full install of LXDE on an alternate partition.  I booted there today to see what happened.  I copied the offending folders over from the KDE.  A similar thing happened.  I could play the wav files with Clementine but not with MPlayer.  Yet if I copied the wav file ..say to the desktop, it would play with both.

I did this same trial with different folders where I have wav file or even music files not of my making.  I knew the folders contained similar things and were made at various times.  But the dates did not seem to matter.  Some folders were made years ago.  Some recently.

I looked at 2 folders that had the same name except for being called  XXX_1 and XXX_2.  One would play and one wouldn't. 
Upon looking closer I saw this XX X_1 and XXX_2.  I went back and renamed closing up the spaces.

I went to several other folders that I had left spaces in the names. I renamed with no spaces and now it seems I can play any wav in them with both players.

Who knows?   

When I boot back into my main KDE install I will check the newly named and see if the smplayer is now working.

Right now I am staying in the LXDE install.  (I like it.... )

[Neal ManBear]

First of all....I have been up for 2 hours working on this.    Just want you to know I don't post for help without first exploring on my own. 

I know that about you. You are not like 'the boy who cried wolf.' As soon as I saw your post, I knew there was some investigating to be done to find the source of the problem and fix it.     

I had written a long long write up yesterday and wrote another one this morning trying desperately to explain what is happening without weaving a coat of many colors.

     

Your efforts are very much appreciated, but please do whatever you need to do to describe what is happening. If you have to "weave a coat of many colors," then do that. Okay?      

I think I have solved it but time will tell. 

I have the full install of LXDE on an alternate partition.  I booted there today to see what happened.  I copied the offending folders over from the KDE.  A similar thing happened.  I could play the wav files with Clementine but not with MPlayer.  Yet if I copied the wav file ..say to the desktop, it would play with both.

I did this same trial with different folders where I have wav file or even music files not of my making.  I knew the folders contained similar things and were made at various times.  But the dates did not seem to matter.  Some folders were made years ago.  Some recently.

I looked at 2 folders that had the same name except for being called  XXX_1 and XXX_2.  One would play and one wouldn't. 
Upon looking closer I saw this XX X_1 and XXX_2.  I went back and renamed closing up the spaces.

I went to several other folders that I had left spaces in the names. I renamed with no spaces and now it seems I can play any wav in them with both players.

Who knows?   

     

Spaces in names can cause the system to think that the name ends at the last character before the space; i.e. the space is seen as the terminal ending of the name rather than as a part of the name. (I hope I'm explaining this clearly.)     

When I boot back into my main KDE install I will check the newly named and see if the smplayer is now working.

Right now I am staying in the LXDE install.  (I like it.... )

     

LXDE does "grow on you," doesn't it?      

[ms_meme]

Your efforts are very much appreciated, but please do whatever you need to do to describe what is happening. If you have to "weave a coat of many colors," then do that. Okay?      

LXDE does "grow on you," doesn't it?      

Yes it does.    Installing some things now. And I am sure I will have many questions to weave about. 

(I just can't seem to do without Dolphin. )   

I think what really motivated me to look for a solution was when you suggested going into a console.    Anything to avoid that!!!!

One little thing:  In the task LXDE I found a huge big yellow mouse pointer.  All I can find in the install of LXDE is tiny mouse arrows.  I am sure that won't be hard to fix/find?

[Neal ManBear]

Your efforts are very much appreciated, but please do whatever you need to do to describe what is happening. If you have to "weave a coat of many colors," then do that. Okay?      

LXDE does "grow on you," doesn't it?      

Yes it does.    Installing some things now. And I am sure I will have many questions to weave about. 

     

Ask away. Somebody will know or be able to find the answers.     

(I just can't seem to do without Dolphin. )   

     

You can install kde apps on PCLinuxOS-LXDE. It will work just fine.

I think what really motivated me to look for a solution was when you suggested going into a console.    Anything to avoid that!!!!

     

Launching an app from a terminal is not quite the same as running a system command. I only asked for that to be done so that we'd have the terminal feedback to examine for clues.     

One little thing:  In the task LXDE I found a huge big yellow mouse pointer.  All I can find in the install of LXDE is tiny mouse arrows.  I am sure that won't be hard to fix/find?

     

In Synaptic, search for "cursor." You can install several and switch between them with LXAppearance or lxcursor until you find one that suits you.     

[daniel]

Really kde apps?

No, no, so many good apps in our repo...

I like umplayer for all my movies, videos, and what else.

DeadBeeF is my default sound player here, and it's open zip archives from jamendo...

My 2 cents... 

[ms_meme]

I did rename every folder I have without leaving spaces.  Probably a good idea whether there were wav files there or not. 

Really kde apps?

No, no, so many good apps in our repo...

I like umplayer for all my movies, videos, and what else.

DeadBeeF is my default sound player here, and it's open zip archives from jamendo...

My 2 cents... 

I am grateful for your 2 cents, Leiche.  And 2 cents at a time is about all I can handle. 
When I have been used to doing things one way for several years, it comes as a surprise that there is another way.
But at the same time I am too old for too many surprises at once. 

Since I am running the task-LX in one partition with KDE and the full LXDE on another partition, I seem to be booting back and forth a lot.  So when I do ask something I try to distinguish just where I am at the time.

I noticed I couldn't unzip something in task-LX.  I thought I R clicked and it said something about extracting, but it didn't seem to work.  I just changed to Dolphin and did it.

So are you saying I should get jamendo from synaptic to do this?

[djohnston]

So are you saying I should get jamendo from synaptic to do this?

Jamendo is a music website.

[ms_meme]

So are you saying I should get jamendo from synaptic to do this?

Jamendo is a music website.

Fer sure....I don't need any more music. 

I had searched in synaptic and this came up.

But still remains my question:  How do I unzip something in task-LXDE?

[Neal ManBear]

Do you not have file-roller installed?     

[ms_meme]

Do you not have file-roller installed?     

I didn't, but I do now. 

I am R clicking on the file (a font set) that I want.  I see the file-roller, but now sure what I should do next.

[Neal ManBear]

Open it with file-roller and extract it. From there, I'm not sure, as the only fonts I have ever installed were from the repos.     

[daniel]

Is file-roller set in pcmanfm?

Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Archiver intergration



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[ms_meme]

Is file-roller set in pcmanfm?

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I just set it as you showed and that works now in PCManFM.