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Offline jfdesign

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2011, 10:05:27 AM »
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Only thing I notice is a green line under the video ....  not in the film part, but outside.
Can probably be got rid of by sizing properly ....  but not a problem as all is working now.
me too got the thin green line at the bottom using vlc, but mostly i'm using tvtime for viewing so i won't bothering.

i've got no problem with audio on both alsa and pulse, the slider is present on Capture devices using pulse and had a USB 2861 Device tab on alsa mixer.

did you ever try record with kdenlive ?
with tuner reception is not problem with this parameters :
-f oss -i /dev/dsp -acodec mp2 -f video4linux2 -s 320x240 -r 25 -i /dev/video0 -vcodec mjpeg
but i've got difficulties configuring the capture parameters to record from video input.


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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2011, 10:34:17 AM »
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did you ever try record with kdenlive ?

i tried it, but I couldn't get video reception.

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i've got no problem with audio on both alsa and pulse, the slider is present on Capture devices using pulse and had a USB 2861 Device tab on alsa mixer.

What slider do you have? All I've got is a line slider.

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2011, 10:50:10 AM »
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did you ever try record with kdenlive ?


i tried it, but I couldn't get video reception.

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i've got no problem with audio on both alsa and pulse, the slider is present on Capture devices using pulse and had a USB 2861 Device tab on alsa mixer.


What slider do you have? All I've got is a line slider.


hi  ;D
here is the slider using alsa :

the USB2861 device tab were pop up automatically when i insert the device

and here is using pulse :

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2011, 11:01:49 AM »
The difficulty both of us seem to have is that there is no such slider .....  I wonder why ....
maybe some setting or package ....
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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2011, 11:07:59 AM »
That's basically what I have, jfdesign, but I still can't get sound...

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2011, 11:23:55 AM »
jfdesign,     
               could you post the contents of your

/home/user/.tvtime/tvtime.xml

file, please. Would just like to make sure.

I only get a picture in TVTime in Composite mode ...  not S-Video.
The only audio output from the device seems to be in the composite signal.

I am able to read its input OK at hw:x.y .....  but there seems to be no separate audio output going to the mixer.

I wonder if there is a setting that can be changed to correct that, as I understand from your pics that there is an audio out from your device, separate to the composite video signal.

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2011, 11:35:16 AM »
That's basically what I have, jfdesign, but I still can't get sound...

i really want to help you, but i don't know how
i already said that i did nothing to make it work, it just work here.  :(
maybe if u ask me my config, i can give you

jfdesign,     
               could you post the contents of your

/home/user/.tvtime/tvtime.xml

file, please.

sure. here it is :

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE tvtime PUBLIC "-//tvtime//DTD tvtime 1.0//EN" "http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/DTD/tvtime1.dtd">
<tvtime xmlns="http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/DTD/">
  <option name="DefaultBrightness" value="45"/>
  <option name="DefaultContrast" value="50"/>
  <option name="DefaultSaturation" value="45"/>
  <option name="DefaultHue" value="50"/>
  <option name="Norm" value="PAL"/>
  <option name="PrevChannel" value="6"/>
  <option name="Channel" value="5"/>
  <option name="FramerateMode" value="0"/>
  <option name="OverScan" value="3.5"/>
  <option name="CheckForSignal" value="1"/>
  <option name="AudioBoost" value="100"/>
  <option name="AlwaysOnTop" value="0"/>
  <option name="QuietScreenshots" value="0"/>
  <option name="UnmuteVolume" value="12850"/>
  <option name="Muted" value="0"/>
  <option name="V4LInput" value="1"/>
  <option name="AudioMode" value="stereo"/>
  <option name="PalDKMode" value="0"/>
  <option name="FullScreen" value="0"/>
  <option name="WideScreen" value="0"/>
  <option name="Frequencies" value="custom"/>
  <option name="DeinterlaceMethod" value="AdaptiveAdvanced"/>
  <option name="InputWidth" value="768"/>
<option name="ColourInvert" value="0"/><option name="MirrorInput" value="0"/></tvtime>

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2011, 11:43:53 AM »
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I only get a picture in TVTime in Composite mode ...  not S-Video.
oh, how come?  :-\
isn't the svideo only the luminance of composite without chroma ?
if i unplug the svideo connector input, and the composite video is still feed, then i change the input setting on tvtime to use svideo, the video will be black and white / grey level.
(sorry for my language  :D)


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The only audio output from the device seems to be in the composite signal.
no on mine. the audio in is used for both svideo and composite

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2011, 12:12:47 PM »
Well, I tried to copy/paste your xml file, but that only seemed to make the picture worse. And I still had no sound. I fixed it by switching one of the values from PAL to NTSC

This is quite troubling. At this rate, I'll never be able to do my Let's Plays. :(

Thank you both for all your help though, and thanks jcdesign for letting me use your config file.

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2011, 01:02:52 PM »
Examples of what I have looked at ....  it might trigger some comment ...

gnome sound recorder can record the audio from the Video Grabber ...  it may be the input to the device ....  or maybe it is an output that nothig else can see?

gnome volume control (from the sound recorder) shows the device as an input

gstreamer properties will play the audio when tested ... it also plays the video when tested

kmix shows the device under Capture

PA Vol Ctrl shows it under input devices

All of those would indicate that any app should be able to connect to it .....  as the gnome sound recorder does.

Qasmixer says Capture 1:1 available .....  but there are no mixer elements shown for the device

The audio plays with the video in VLC if I choose   alsa://hw:2,0

I get no audio in TVTime or KMplayer.
There is an option to put in the audio location in KMPlayer but nothing to date has worked.

This is a real puzzler ......

EDIT
          Just to add that I tried the device on the 64 bit PCLOS and had the same results ....  no audio in KMPlayer or TVTime, only composite gets selected despite both being options in KMPlayer.
Source ...  a DVD player still.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2011, 02:00:16 PM by Just18 »
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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2011, 07:39:12 PM »
hi. good day.

sorry for the misunderstanding, i will separate each post for each person  ;D

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2011, 07:42:38 PM »
Well, I tried to copy/paste your xml file, but that only seemed to make the picture worse. And I still had no sound. I fixed it by switching one of the values from PAL to NTSC

This is quite troubling. At this rate, I'll never be able to do my Let's Plays. :(

Thank you both for all your help though, and thanks jcdesign for letting me use your config file.


Venomous Woe,

of course it worse, because i live in a country that using PAL as a standard transmission and NTSC at yours, it's different.
that xml file was for just18.


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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2011, 07:52:14 PM »
Examples of what I have looked at ....  it might trigger some comment ...

gnome sound recorder can record the audio from the Video Grabber ...  it may be the input to the device ....  or maybe it is an output that nothig else can see?

gnome volume control (from the sound recorder) shows the device as an input

gstreamer properties will play the audio when tested ... it also plays the video when tested

kmix shows the device under Capture

PA Vol Ctrl shows it under input devices

All of those would indicate that any app should be able to connect to it .....  as the gnome sound recorder does.

Qasmixer says Capture 1:1 available .....  but there are no mixer elements shown for the device

The audio plays with the video in VLC if I choose   alsa://hw:2,0

I get no audio in TVTime or KMplayer.
There is an option to put in the audio location in KMPlayer but nothing to date has worked.

This is a real puzzler ......

just18,

i wonder, did your device has two audio output like mine ?
one is an analog audio line out with headphone jack that connected to line in of the sound card, and the second is via usb audio device. i have both sound on them.
if you can not get sound from usb audio, then why not from the analog one ?



EDIT
          Just to add that I tried the device on the 64 bit PCLOS and had the same results ....  no audio in KMPlayer or TVTime, only composite gets selected despite both being options in KMPlayer.
Source ...  a DVD player still.

i'm typing this from my test3 iso and my usb capture device works flawlesly like on 32bit.
i love Tex's kernel  ;D , seems like my device love it too.
thank you Tex

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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2011, 02:58:06 AM »
jfdesign.
             the device has one cable, attached to it via a mini-usb type connector. That cable splits into
an S-Video 'din' type socket
and also three coloured sockets for Video(yellow) & Audio left (white), right (red) (Composite)

I have been testing with S-Video and component inputs both separately connected and also with both sets connected.

The device itself plugs into a standard USB port.

It has no other connection .....  and thus no separate analogue audio connection.

I must get audio and video from the USB connection.


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As my previous post indicates, the audio is present, and is recordable by gnome-sound-recorder.

The puzzle seems to be that some apps can see this audio, while others cannot.

I don't know if you use KDE .....  but if you do could you try using KMPlayer with the device?

It does give very detailed and well formatted output in the video window, when the 'Console' icon is ticked. This is what it tells me .....

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ID_VIDEO_CODEC=rawyuy2
Audio: no sound
Starting playback...

So, to recap, I am puzzled that I can record from the audio channel, but neither TVTime not KMPlayer will lock to this audio and VLC will only 'see' it if the audio channel's hardware location is specified.
KMPlayer has the facility in the GUI to specify the hardware location of the audio channel/stream, but nothing I have tried so far has resulted in audio being present on the output.

I suppose the solution will be obvious when it is discovered ....  but I am not seeing it yet ....  :(

« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 02:59:56 AM by Just18 »
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Re: Need help with a USB capture card
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2011, 03:50:10 AM »
ok. understood.

I don't know if you use KDE .....  but if you do could you try using KMPlayer with the device?
i will try with kmplayer as soon as i got home.