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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 03:35:11 PM »
an another tool in our repo could
Running Roadkil's Unstoppable Copier

Hi, are you saying it is available in our repositories ?

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 03:48:35 PM »
yes i said it...
Search for unstopcp  ;)

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2011, 09:23:45 AM »
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I want to find out too what he is going to use that actually worked, want to install it on my
OpenBox Bonsai rescue/backup flashdrive I use.

For a data recovery liveCD I would ensure that I don't have it set to mount any partitions at boot. Initial mounting, until you really know the situation (and we don't here!) should be read only, and only when needed for assessing the condition of the disk, file system and files, and/or retrieving data (once that assessment has been made).
The partition should only be mounted read/write when it is specifically needed, this is one 'rule' I would like to see followed by anyone creating a data recovery disk with PCLinuxOS.
There is no one tool that is best for all data recovery situations, and you may get best results by using a combination of tools.

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There are 145 MB's that are reading as bad areas on the drive he said.

That does suggest a failing disk, (but we don't have reliable feedback from him (the third party!)).
With a failing disk, retrieve the most important data that can be read before it's lost, and before attempting data recovery tools, you would need to access this disk as little as possible, it's likely to continue dying while being accessed. Target the data to be recovered carefully, most important data first.
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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2011, 12:23:24 PM »
MODERATION WARNING

Cause: promotion of non-PCLinuxOS iso's (Posts have been removed)

Will posters please observe the non-promotion of other distributions section of the usage rules, experienced forum users should know better.

At least one of the PCLinxuOS iso's has the ability to be used for rescue purposes - this has been mentioned.

Any further post that breaches of the usage rules will result in this thread being locked and potentially removed .

Jase

« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 01:16:23 PM by Hootiegibbon »

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2011, 01:05:21 PM »
yes i said it...
Search for unstopcp  ;)

Yes, unstopcp, it reminds me of safecopy, but with a small GUI.
From PCL Synaptic to my PCL OpenBox Bonsai for sure for both.   
I like the way they switch to a maximum data recovery mode
with multiple retries, low level copying, etc.  by user chosen
setting.   They look good on paper to me.   All my drives are presently
working so I don't have firsthand experience about them.

Thanks for the reply,

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2011, 01:06:40 PM »
Jase .....  if you removed posts could you please mention that in the warning ....  as a warning with no evidence of reason (posts removed) reads very very weird.

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2011, 01:20:50 PM »
Jase .....  if you removed posts could you please mention that in the warning ....  as a warning with no evidence of reason (posts removed) reads very very weird.

Thanks.


Just18,

Point taken and post adjusted thank you.

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2011, 05:39:50 PM »
freaking colors always giving problems
anyway, this is not sandbox, this is a desktop hardware posts asking help on hard disk crash
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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2011, 05:51:09 PM »
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There is no real reason to suggest any external distro's, we have the tools available in our repo for data rescue, many of which are available on our own remasters that are available for download

Jase

True, with the impressive hardware detection of PCLinuxOS I see no reason that a version can not be created that equals or betters any repair/recovery liveCD out there. Of course this would require discussing what people need and want, and how other such liveCDs' go about this to be able to equal or better them.
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14. We have a strong policy of not discussing the promotion of nor the dismissal of other distros, postings that do this will be removed, there may be occasions where distros         are discussed in a neutral way, these posts will be generally coverd by a common-sense exception to allow their being, otherwise they will be removed.
Oh!! there is a reason that can't be done, silly me!
Ok, I will go hide under my rock now and pretend the rest of the world does not exist!

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2011, 06:02:26 PM »
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There is no real reason to suggest any external distro's, we have the tools available in our repo for data rescue, many of which are available on our own remasters that are available for download

Jase

True, with the impressive hardware detection of PCLinuxOS I see no reason that a version can not be created that equals or betters any repair/recovery liveCD out there. Of course this would require discussing what people need and want, and how other such liveCDs' go about this to be able to equal or better them.
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14. We have a strong policy of not discussing the promotion of nor the dismissal of other distros, postings that do this will be removed, there may be occasions where distros         are discussed in a neutral way, these posts will be generally coverd by a common-sense exception to allow their being, otherwise they will be removed.
Oh!! there is a reason that can't be done, silly me!
Ok, I will go hide under my rock now and pretend the rest of the world does not exist!

Its much easier than you suggest, do the research off - forum, come back with a list of common apps from that research and discuss them the applications exist separate to any particular distro,, and can be requested via the package request sub forum, then build a light install up and remaster  (doing all the essential clean ups).

PCLinuxOS-Light (Iced Latte) includes many recovery apps already , foremost, dd_rescue, ddrescue, photorec, and it includes partitioning applications etc part of the spec for Iced Latte was to have a base that install rescue could be done from a light PCLinuxOS environment, this rescue feature was added a long time ago (as these apps were also included in t WMii iso) after a thread with forum members who wanted to have rescue ability on a livecd, among those poster who expressed this interest was Mel, who seems to have a very selective memory.


Other distros have their OWN forums that should be used to discuss those distros.

you don't walk into a BMW garage to discuss ford cars,

Jase




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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2011, 06:07:57 PM »
Jase, I would kindly suggest you auto moderate your words towards me. I consider you as a nice man, and don't quite see where you want to go...

Another thing : there have been rescue programs on most PCLinuxOS versions since quite some time now... testdisk, ddrescue or dd_rescue, partitioning tools... hdparm, sdparm... The versions I produce have had them as well since the day I started back in 2009. I learned about a new one in this thread thanks to Leiche.

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2011, 06:16:48 PM »
<snip> there have been rescue programs on most PCLinuxOS versions since quite some time now... testdisk, ddrescue or dd_rescue, partitioning tools... hdparm, sdparm... <snip>



Exactly the point I made waaayyy back in post 9, as per the usage guidence rules.

There is NO Need to recommend other distros

PCLinxuOS is more than capable of data rescue, this has been true from the very start.

I am glad you have decided to agree - and since I agree with T6 in regard to this thread I will now get the brush out and tidy it up...

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2011, 08:07:11 PM »
Hi,

Proceeeding to look at these programs from the PCL repo.
More or less have the selection limited to these.

dd_rescue - highly recommended and will not shutdown
testdisk and photorec - highly recommended for the entire partition
safecopy - many logical options and some presets
unstopcp - small GUI and appears similar to safecopy

One more than I was hoping for but all are installed
and working in case needed.  

One other thing, if I had a TB drive I certainly wouldn't
format it all one partition.   50 or 100 GB per partition
at the most.   It could take most of a day or even 2 days to
run some utility's on a TB partition.

I'll marked this solved in a few days if nothing else comes up.  

THX.

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2011, 03:44:21 AM »
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It could take most of a day or even 2 days to
run some utility's on a TB partition.
Yes, but I thought there was a need to recover the data!

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Re: Hard Drive Recovery Program
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2011, 01:14:14 PM »
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It could take most of a day or even 2 days to
run some utility's on a TB partition.
Yes, but I thought there was a need to recover the data!

Well in the past when I had bad sectors and/or undelete problems
I rarely recovered more than 10% of the data affected.   Which is
where the original problem is I think.   Don't worry about it too much.

I need to put in a package request for Testdisk and Photorec.   The
versions we have are about 2 years old.   When using Testdisk it
is telling me my head count is incorrect and I have a bad relative
sector, just running it at one of my drives to see how Testdisk works.
My drive originally formatted OK, archives with checksums OK,  fsck
doesn't appear to run at bootup ever, fdisk tells me I have 246 heads
as opposed to 255 heads Testdisk is seeing and reporting,
but otherwise
the drive runs OK.   I did get a kernel crash while typing this message
earlier and had to reboot, when I had Testdisk in a root terminal sitting
and was concurrently running Firefox.  I'm betting Testdisk needs an upgrade.

Going to take a backup, reformat the drive with testing for bad blocks,
reinstall from backup, request a package request and see what happens then.  

Can't really see Testdisk or Photorec working OK right now, the two most
recommended programs.

thanks for the response,

FF


edit : when using testdisk, a gparted recreated drive gives bad head counts,
a PCL Control Center recreated drive gives correct head counts, twice even.
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