Drivers for Radeon 9100 AGP (SOLVED)

[damidk]

Hi Folks,
I have an Asus Pundit desktop machine running a ATI Radeon 9100 AGP series video card, which I can't seem to find any 3D graphics support for.
I had varying versions of Suse linux previously, and found all my 3d stuff worked OK, but can't get the same results with PClos. After having a look at various forums and so on, and not getting any where,  I thought I might resort to asking the PClinux community for some help.
Basically, does PCLinusOS support 3D graphics for the above mentioned card? (or am I stuck with 2D)
Any help would be great.

Cheers,
Damidk.

[DeBaas]

AMD stopped support for older ATI Radeon cards in the fglrx driver for the Linux X-window system.
So older versions of PCLinuxOS, (Ußuntu, Windows and others) are supporting 3D for your card as long as you don't update.
But a-las it's gone in the newer versions.
I lost 3D in one of the updates for my ATI Radeon 9600 in the Linux test box.
(It was also supported in W7 first edition but gone after one of the update cycles)

So we all have to say goodbay to our beloved older stuff, or be happy with de still available possibillities.

Ed

[damidk]

Thanks for that Ed,

You must be right, so I will just have to stick with what I have at the moment. The Asus Pundit is an old machine anyway, so I will have to update it some time. The 3D issue doesn't cause any problems, so much as I like to  get every thing working, like it is a bit of a challenge. Do you also know, or suspect that this might have some effect on "Google earth" showing us a black screen/gold map outlines, no detail. A lot of forums point to graphics issues rather than settings. That is about the only other thing I can't get to work properly.

Thanks again.
Damidk.

[DeBaas]

In the Google Earth Tools Options there is a setting in 3D graphic modus, safe settings.
You should use this for your card.

I cannot check exactly cause Google Eart is localized and flashing when I switch to options
But you got the idear.

[damidk]

Thanks Ed, now that is a fast reply!

I've tried that option, and other stuff,  but alas, no change.   Perhaps I will experiment further, as all other applications work fine, but I tend to think the simple problem is that it won't work with out the proper drivers.

Perhaps I can mark this post as solved, as I think you have answered my question satisfactorily.

Cheers,
Damidk.

[µT6]

there was a old post that explained how to enable some 3d support back on this very old video card

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,92281.0.html

the only real solution is change that really old video card, for agp there is still video cards with good support and better performance, like a geforce 6200 or 7000, maybe a old radeon 9800 but is unsupported too, anything under a hd 3200 is unsupported and some doesn't even really work now, like a radeon 7000, works but doesn't work really

it is a good idea, upgrade your hardware if your hardware is decent, not that old and you can make a small investment in the video card, if you can handle what it is doing at the moment, it is wise to keep it as it is

[DeBaas]

@µT6
That fix you pointed out has prolonged the 3D life of my ATI Radeon 9600 for a few months, but the next fglrx broke 3D forever
I've got me a nVidia 5200 but that one is in the dangerzone too

[damidk]

Thanks Guys for the feedback. Sorry about the delay.
I might need a bit of time to wade through the info from the link you (uT6) posted. I'm not sure if it is worth the effort in my case, as the system still works "ok".
I think the graphics in my unit  (ASUS pundit) are "on board" so I can't change to another graphics card. (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm happy with the answer provided, as it will save me a lot of wasted time trying to solve an unsolvable issue!

Thanks chaps,
Damidk. (which incidentally stands for "don't ask me I don't know)

[µT6]

if you give me the specs of the device or the exact model of the asus device i could do a search and find more info

i tried with the link i posted and in my case it didn't worked as expected

i eventually set my radeon 9200 to use kde4 and enabled kwin effects with xrender, it worked well with some limitations but well in general until a couple weeks ago, when i assembled another pc with a newer video card

[damidk]

Thanks for the offer, uT6, but to be quite honest, I  might let the ol' Radeon rest in peace. I've got to update this unit anyway. Like I said, it functions as is, but with out 3D. I have listed the "lspci" out put relevant to the graphics if you feel you want to see what is out there.

Its an ASUS PUNDIT, dual core P4. 2.8GHz with 2 gig RAM.
 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS300 [Radeon 9100 IGP]
PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon 9100 IGP AGP Bridge

I trust that is all you need, but don't go to any great lengths for my sake.

Cheers,
Damidk.

[µT6]

i found several asus pundit including one with a i7 intel cpu

based on the cpu, it must be a intel P4 at 3ghz single core, doing hiperthreading so you see it reporting two cores

on most models i found partial pictures of the case opened and from the very little i see on them, there is no space for a video card slot, if ther is it should be a very small one, fanless and with a small heatsink so it looks like a model designed to be used and the discarded, not upgraded

[damidk]

Yep, she 's probably an old unit, and I know the graphics can't be upgraded. The CPU is a twin core P4, but I don't know what year it was released. I appreciate the help given, and I am quite happy with the idea of upgrading the whole thing. It has done a lot of work any way.

 Cheers,
Damidk

[µT6]

the only way to know if it can be upgraded or not for sure is open the unit and verify if it has a agp slot

other than that, probably you already have the maximum ram and cpu it can have