TV touble

[Mr Bits]

 i have a  HP Pavillion slimline s5653uk PC.It came with windows 7 and has a tv card that wowks on w7
but i cant get it to work on pclos.
The card is a Hauppauge wintv dvb-t  model 133 5549 lf. pclos does not detect this as a tv card.
in control center- hardware detect is shows no tv card but it shows an unknown scanner

Identification
Vendor: ‎Hauppauge

Description: ‎Unknown

Media class: ‎

Connection
Bus: ‎USB

Bus PCI #: ‎1

PCI device #: ‎3

Vendor ID: ‎0x2040

Device ID: ‎0xd300

Misc
Module: ‎usbcore

Any help?

[menotu]

Anything here of any use?

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Categories

[david1958]

As for the tv tuner problem, I have a Happ 1250 tv tuner card in my tower. It works in Windows and this one will work in pc linux by using the Kaffiene tv viewer. You do have to configure it though which is easy. I use a tv antenna here at home for we live pretty far out there with the only access it satallite which I will not pay their fees considering the elevation I have and the signal strength.

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Either download the Kaffiene program unless it came with the package. Some versions of PC linux already have it installed, some do not.

after you open Kaffiene, look for the tab of "television" Click on it go to the bottom link for "

configure television"  open the option for Device 1 under "source" you have to choose a option on what type of signal. I use us-atsc-center -freq-8vsb"  hit  ok. under the option of television again, click on the first one now to "channels" and do a scan to see if it picks up the channels. The option I choose is for a outside tv antenna now. You will have to play with it to find the rite one.
Hope this helps you. It has worked for me perfect

david1958

[parnote]

Mr Bits,

Good luck with that Hauppage tuner. Unfortunately, Hauppage has a quite poor history of supporting Linux. Usually, luck reigns supreme when trying to get Hauppage tuner cards working under Linux. Most of the tuner cards they manufacture are made and marketed with Windows exclusively in mind.

You would think that since television conforms to a standard, and all the components in a PC (more or less) should conform to a standard, that it wouldn't be too difficult to create a tuner card that isn't dependent on which OS is installed. It really shouldn't be too hard to get the television standard to talk to the PC standard, should it?

I'll be watching this thread to see how you fare with your attempts to get it up and working.

parnote

[Just17]

No post by MrBits here since Aug last year ............  seems this is a dead thread ..........

seems he has moved to Fedora ..........

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101887.msg868002.html

[david1958]

well, if he is not here anymore then we cannot make suggestions. I know for a fact that the tv tuner card "WinTV-HVR-1250 card will work just fine for me under windows and pc linux and it worked under mandriva also. I did a little research over a year ago and yes you are right for I have contacted Hauppauge tech before and he tells me that they do not know on LInux, they like most other companys make it only to keep Windows happy for that is just about the worldwide system for people are just downright to Lazy to try something else and spend a little time reading and figuring it out.

[parnote]

No post by MrBits here since Aug last year ............  seems this is a dead thread ..........

seems he has moved to Fedora ..........

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101887.msg868002.html

Oh ... my bad! How did I not even notice that?

Oh well! Still a good topic for discussion.....

parnote

[david1958]

Mabe it will help someone get their card working. I bought one and tried it on ubuntu and could not get it to work. I went back to xp for a while and it worked just fine. I came across Pc Linux, thought I would burn the iso for full monty, and had to try a few of the other viewers with no luck. Then Kaffiene worked so I  was happy.

[parnote]

Mabe it will help someone get their card working. I bought one and tried it on another distro and could not get it to work. I went back to xp for a while and it worked just fine. I came across Pc Linux, thought I would burn the iso for full monty, and had to try a few of the other viewers with no luck. Then Kaffiene worked so I  was happy.

I cautiously optimistic (hopeful?) that when the new kernel hits the repos, some of my "non-functioning" equipment will start working. I have another desktop computer with an onboard hardware MPEG2 encoder tv tuner card that isn't recognized under Linux ... and it would be nice to have that available.

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[Bald Brick]

Mabe it will help someone get their card working.

+1

It may also be much-needed warning to users: before you buy a Hauppauge card you should at least do a search on the Net and check how easy it is to make it work on a Linux system.

I used a Hauppauge card for analog TV in the late 'nineties and for quite some time into this millennium. It worked quite well. But when I first tried to make it work in Linux it took me two months before I found the right driver module. Or actually I found it in a week with some light googling, but it took me very much longer before I realized that I had found it as I had to blacklist a couple of other drivers before I could use it.

When i then needed a DVB card a couple of years later I bought one made by Terratec. It was actually cheaper but that's not why I picked it. There was a penguin logo following the Microsoft one on the box. And it worked out of that same box. Without my having to tweak anything. It's now on its third computer. (The system recognizes it as a  Philips Semiconductors card.)

Don't support vendors who don't support Linux!

[david1958]

Your rite Mr. Brick on the end of your post. But I was green when i bought this card, did the research on it thru here

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge

and read about different cards. Everyone should do research on hardware before you buy to use  on a linux system. Not all printers will work and so forth. So instead of spending hard earned cash to buy something that "might work" do a litltle research. By the way me an op are still working on the grub issue.

David

[Just17]

I have wondered about such cards ........  never owned one that I recall (today   ) .......  and how they compare to some of the USB connected 'sticks' with tuners.

It is my understanding - which is likely wrong - that the card has decoding on board, while the USB sticks depend on the processing power of the PC to decode the signal for display.

I can see that as an advantage, particularly where underpowered PCs are involved.

On the other hand the USB sticks are portable, so can be easily swapped from one PC to another, or carried as an accessory for a laptop - something which no doubt is attractive to a lot of people.

One advantage of the USB stick - again as I understand it  (where DTT is concerned in my case)  - is that all the channels from a transponder are available to the OS, and thus all of them can be made available simultaneously enabling one to view one channel while recording another .........  or indeed play as many channels as the PC resources allow.

Another advantage is cost, of course. The internal cards are about 10x the price of a USB stick.

So, at this time, I have difficulty in finding a reason to insert an internal card into any PC as opposed to plugging in a USB stick for the purpose.

If anyone has further info on this comparison I would like to hear it, as I have no experience with the internal cards.

Thanks.

[parnote]

I have wondered about such cards ........  never owned one that I recall (today   ) .......  and how they compare to some of the USB connected 'sticks' with tuners.

It is my understanding - which is likely wrong - that the card has decoding on board, while the USB sticks depend on the processing power of the PC to decode the signal for display.

I can see that as an advantage, particularly where underpowered PCs are involved.

On the other hand the USB sticks are portable, so can be easily swapped from one PC to another, or carried as an accessory for a laptop - something which no doubt is attractive to a lot of people.

One advantage of the USB stick - again as I understand it  (where DTT is concerned in my case)  - is that all the channels from a transponder are available to the OS, and thus all of them can be made available simultaneously enabling one to view one channel while recording another .........  or indeed play as many channels as the PC resources allow.

Another advantage is cost, of course. The internal cards are about 10x the price of a USB stick.

So, at this time, I have difficulty in finding a reason to insert an internal card into any PC as opposed to plugging in a USB stick for the purpose.

If anyone has further info on this comparison I would like to hear it, as I have no experience with the internal cards.

Thanks.

There are a lot of "lower end" tuner cards that do NOT have onboard decoding/encoding, relying instead on the software package that accompanies the card.

As for the price, there is (over here, anyways) very little differences in prices between the lower end tuner cards and the USB sticks.

I agree with the portability with the USB versions. I've been reluctant to try them, hearing quite a mixed bag of results with them.

parnote

[Just17]

I have wondered about such cards ........  never owned one that I recall (today   ) .......  and how they compare to some of the USB connected 'sticks' with tuners.

It is my understanding - which is likely wrong - that the card has decoding on board, while the USB sticks depend on the processing power of the PC to decode the signal for display.

I can see that as an advantage, particularly where underpowered PCs are involved.

On the other hand the USB sticks are portable, so can be easily swapped from one PC to another, or carried as an accessory for a laptop - something which no doubt is attractive to a lot of people.

One advantage of the USB stick - again as I understand it  (where DTT is concerned in my case)  - is that all the channels from a transponder are available to the OS, and thus all of them can be made available simultaneously enabling one to view one channel while recording another .........  or indeed play as many channels as the PC resources allow.

Another advantage is cost, of course. The internal cards are about 10x the price of a USB stick.

So, at this time, I have difficulty in finding a reason to insert an internal card into any PC as opposed to plugging in a USB stick for the purpose.

If anyone has further info on this comparison I would like to hear it, as I have no experience with the internal cards.

Thanks.

There are a lot of "lower end" tuner cards that do NOT have onboard decoding/encoding, relying instead on the software package that accompanies the card.

As for the price, there is (over here, anyways) very little differences in prices between the lower end tuner cards and the USB sticks.

I agree with the portability with the USB versions. I've been reluctant to try them, hearing quite a mixed bag of results with them.

parnote

I realise there is a difference between the broadcasting systems (there Vs here), but I have seen the USB sticks advertised for North America also.

This is an example .....  very similar to one I bought some time ago, and use daily .....

http://tinyurl.com/ctru22x

I have not come across an internal card for similar money here.

regards.

[Bald Brick]

One advantage of the USB stick - again as I understand it  (where DTT is concerned in my case)  - is that all the channels from a transponder are available to the OS, and thus all of them can be made available simultaneously enabling one to view one channel while recording another .........  or indeed play as many channels as the PC resources allow.

At least to some extent this is possible with an internal card too. I can simultaneously record any number of commercial broadcasts while watching one, and I can record several broadcasts from our national radio and television company while watching another one (and I suppose I could watch several programs simultaneously too). But I can't watch a broadcast from a commercial station while I record a national one or vice versa. They are on separate multiplexes.