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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2011, 07:41:10 AM »
Hi all,

Let introduce myself: I'm the one who wrote openbox-menu. Presentation is done. :)

The XSD file is only for validating the XML output with some tools like xmllint. Menu.xsd is not needed.

A configuration for gamin is a good thing as openbox-menu uses menucache which uses gio which uses gamin for monitoring directories containing desktop files.I try to dig some informations in gamin source code for the default polling interval, I only retreived the meaningless value of -1. So => basic configuration for gamin (Slackware use 15 seconds for polling interval).

I applied a few changes in openbox-menu a few minutes ago. It uses now a 'synced' method for querying data to menucache lib. I think it should be better for refreshing the menu faster but the lack of documentation for menucache is not helping.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2011, 08:28:05 AM »
Hi all,

Let introduce myself: I'm the one who wrote openbox-menu. Presentation is done. :)

The XSD file is only for validating the XML output with some tools like xmllint. Menu.xsd is not needed.

A configuration for gamin is a good thing as openbox-menu uses menucache which uses gio which uses gamin for monitoring directories containing desktop files.I try to dig some informations in gamin source code for the default polling interval, I only retreived the meaningless value of -1. So => basic configuration for gamin (Slackware use 15 seconds for polling interval).

I applied a few changes in openbox-menu a few minutes ago. It uses now a 'synced' method for querying data to menucache lib. I think it should be better for refreshing the menu faster but the lack of documentation for menucache is not helping.

Hi mimas and welcome to the forum.

Thank you for all the work you have done with openbox-menu.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2011, 11:14:10 AM »

Hi all,

Let introduce myself: I'm the one who wrote openbox-menu. Presentation is done. :)



Welcome to the forum, glad you're here.   The last few days has been the first
time I've looked at openbox-menu and it's interesting.   I've only tested the
Openbox-Bonsai here for basic operations, etc..


Melodie: if you have any questions regarding English, standard usage, business
usage, common usage, figurative usage, or whatever usage just ask.   I'll try to keep
the usage to standard usage then.   


Thanks to both of you.


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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2011, 12:19:46 PM »
Tanks to both of you.

@Jeff, I heard you helped a lot Mélodie and the PCLinuxOS Openbox editions.

@Ferdes Fides, well openbox-menu is not a big thing. It's even simplier than my first version written in Lua. It was quite fast but it required extensions that needed to be compiled and installed by hand in many distributions. I just took advantage of LXDE and its library menu-cache, and wrote a small tool to display a menu in Openbox.

PCLinuxOS will soon have Openbox 3.5.0 and the fancy icons in menu. Fast, light and colorful, many will be jealous. :D





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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2011, 01:44:17 PM »
Tanks to both of you.

@Jeff, I heard you helped a lot Mélodie and the PCLinuxOS Openbox editions.

Hey mimas ! :D

Jeff is one of the eldest supporters of the PCLinuxOS Openbox projects, along with at least half a dozen other mighty testers ! I guess the other ones must be at la playa now, or busy with other stuff. :P

Thanks for your participation. ;D

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2011, 07:43:23 PM »
PS: to mimas, I am a bit astonished that there, are not so many members around, for the tests of the newer Openbox... I think however that several reasons lead to this, one among might be it has been long before getting versions ready to go.

Anyhow I am sure all Openbox users are very thankful and appreciate openbox-menu.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2011, 08:16:09 PM »
PS: to mimas, I am a bit astonished that there, are not so many members around, for the tests of the newer Openbox... I think however that several reasons lead to this, one among might be it has been long before getting versions ready to go.

I'm also testing the 64-bit PCLinux iso. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.
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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2011, 08:41:10 PM »
PS: to mimas, I am a bit astonished that there, are not so many members around, for the tests of the newer Openbox... I think however that several reasons lead to this, one among might be it has been long before getting versions ready to go.

Anyhow I am sure all Openbox users are very thankful and appreciate openbox-menu.


When you and mimas and Texstar feel the menu is oK so an average user can feel comfortable
let me know and I'll post release info on the usenet,  might get a bigger response than wanted.
Or I can post the release as a good "test" version.   Might get a bigger response than wanted.
Honestly, kernels and xorgs and overall problems with KDE were taken badly recently, I've heard.
Like old Ubuntu's and their infamous graphical crashes.  LXDE remains the most stable I think.   But
Openbox is a very good tech-current release and stable.    I'm enjoying it, but overall forum volume
seems down and that reduces testers then.   Used to be a super busy forum, you know.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2011, 09:49:19 PM »
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Melodie: if you have any questions regarding English, standard usage, business
usage, common usage, figurative usage, or whatever usage just ask.   I'll try to keep
the usage to standard usage then.   

Melodie:
You can ask me for help as well with English.  As my girlfriend lives in Ukraine and does not understand "slang" or "shorthand" of English.  If I should forget that Nila, my girlfriend, only understands basic or common words in English and I should say something to her in "slang" then I will need to explain it to her.  Sometimes I find myself looking up a word in the English to Ukrainian dictionary to help with my explanation.

And yes I am also jealous that we do not have icons in the right click menu  ;D

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2011, 06:01:12 PM »

I wonder if anyone is using OpenBox with the non-bfs kernel.   Switched
kernels tonight and programs I loaded with Synaptic appeared quite well in the
menu without any extra steps taken.   Might be a coincidence, have to
load some more programs tomorrow and see, it might be working just slightly
better.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2011, 06:19:41 PM »
When I was using 2011.07 Openbox-Bonsai I had the kernel-2.6.38.8-pclos1.a64 and had no problems.
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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2011, 09:42:26 PM »
When I was using 2011.07 Openbox-Bonsai I had the kernel-2.6.38.8-pclos1.a64 and had no problems.

Thanks for the response.   That is definitely a non-bfs kernel. 
Hope some other testers can confirm that as well.
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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2011, 04:31:44 PM »
Hi,

You can experiment of course, but the choice of the kernel must not interfere with the right-click menu fast reloading. I can tell you for having tested it that the next version, available at the moment as sources (you can have a look at the package request I posted) does solve the lag.

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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2011, 05:01:18 PM »
I have installed the 2.6.38.8-pclos3.a64 kernel in OpenBox Bonsai 2011.08
I am going to use it for a couple of weeks and then report back.
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Re: Openbox right-click menu reloading
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2011, 07:58:16 AM »

You can experiment of course, but the choice of the kernel must not interfere with the right-click menu fast reloading. I can tell you for having tested it that the next version, available at the moment as sources (you can have a look at the package request I posted) does solve the lag.



Hi Melodie,

I can't remember anyone testing the 38.8pclos3 (non-bfs) kernel at all.  Thought I would try it then.
I believe you.  Last night I installed several programs and they went right in the menu after two right clicks.
Only other thing changed on this machine was adding the usr/share/openbox files you had in a tarball.  Working
so well right now I don't even want to touch it.   Just decided to start working I guess.  One night
that menu wouldn't update regardless of whether I rebooted, right-clicked, or what I did.    So either
kernel it just started working OK.

Have a good one.

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