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Offline alphaace

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more thunderbird help....
« on: August 17, 2011, 08:39:06 PM »
Recently, thunderbird on my computer has gotten really really slow...it was never speedy but now when I click an inbox I need to wait 5 seconds for it just to display and everything feels ridiculously sluggish.

I tried claws mail but that left me kind of wanting, so I'm hoping to speed up thunderbird. My machine is old (2.2 Ghz P4, 2 Gb Ram) but I really would hope it can run a mail client... Any advice would be appreciated....

Thanks!

*Addendum: Running under LXDE (although I've tried both OpenBox, and E-17 and even KDE to see if it would help) and am fully patched up to the latest in synaptic.
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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 09:41:37 PM »
Recently, thunderbird on my computer has gotten really really slow...it was never speedy but now when I click an inbox I need to wait 5 seconds for it just to display and everything feels ridiculously sluggish.

I tried claws mail but that left me kind of wanting, so I'm hoping to speed up thunderbird. My machine is old (2.2 Ghz P4, 2 Gb Ram) but I really would hope it can run a mail client... Any advice would be appreciated....

Thanks!

*Addendum: Running under LXDE (although I've tried both OpenBox, and E-17 and even KDE to see if it would help) and am fully patched up to the latest in synaptic.

I have no clue for you. I use Thunderbird fully updated and I am having no issues. Maybe it's your mail hosting service? Just a guess.  ??? ???


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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 09:45:57 PM »
Hi,

Hm, it checks a few accounts, 4 gmails, 1 University email and one private email run on a server owned by my friend and to which I have root access (pretty sure that ones not the problem either). Compacting helped a little but not much.

Ok, I'll leave this post open for now to see if anyone has any ideas....

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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 09:48:34 PM »
Hi,

Hm, it checks a few accounts, 4 gmails, 1 University email and one private email run on a server owned by my friend and to which I have root access (pretty sure that ones not the problem either). Compacting helped a little but not much.

Ok, I'll leave this post open for now to see if anyone has any ideas....

When was the last time the mail server was rebooted?  I run postfix for my server and have noticed several times when it gets really slow a reboot (reload) took care of the issue.




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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 09:50:32 PM »
Hi,

Hm, it checks a few accounts, 4 gmails, 1 University email and one private email run on a server owned by my friend and to which I have root access (pretty sure that ones not the problem either). Compacting helped a little but not much.

Ok, I'll leave this post open for now to see if anyone has any ideas....

How frequently is it checking for new mail? Maybe if it is checking too frequently (or not frequently enough?) that might slow down response times? Mine checks every 5 mins but that's because nothing in my email is ever urgent.

Again, just a guess.  ;)


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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 01:55:13 AM »
On my 2.0 Celeron with 1.3Gb of ram I also found the later Thunderbirds (from 3.0 onwards) sluggish - always kind of lagging, no matter what de I use.

Works fine on the newer PCs.

So I did switch to claws mail on that one and it works fine.  What is it you are missing in claws mail you could do in Thunderbird?  Maybe we can help from that side.
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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 02:41:23 PM »
Mine checks every 5 mins but that's because nothing in my email is ever urgent.


Guess nothing in mine in even up-to-date, since I only check every 24 hours...   ???

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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 03:04:03 PM »
I don't use Thunderbird so this may be a bit wild - does it use hardware acceleration?  If so you could try disabling it.

Alternatively if add-ons are used try starting in safe mode and check if it improves performance.

But you may want to try YouCanToo's suggestion as that sounds worth trying
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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 05:18:45 PM »
alphaace...

I use ThunderBird on the windoze and Linux/PCLOS side.

They, Mozilla/thunderbird have gotten a bit crazy in the last several versions, about security.

I run my accounts with NO security... no STARTTLS, NO SSL/TLS.  Yes they "are" suppose to be great.  But they create all kinds of problems too.

In windows, a good anti-virus & firewall is great.  In Linux.. well your in Linux, so you're safe.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 05:49:09 PM »
alphaace...

I use ThunderBird on the windoze and Linux/PCLOS side.

They, Mozilla/thunderbird have gotten a bit crazy in the last several versions, about security.

I run my accounts with NO security... no STARTTLS, NO SSL/TLS.  Yes they "are" suppose to be great.  But they create all kinds of problems too.

In windows, a good anti-virus & firewall is great.  In Linux.. well your in Linux, so you're safe.

Sounds like good thinking Sammy. Only a Winders user would a thunk it up.  ;) ;)  ;D ;D


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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 06:13:31 PM »
I am using Thunderbird 6 (I am actually using it since 2.x version I think) my lappy is NOT a speed deamon and I do not see this slowdown / delay... I am using all the security features like SSL and stuff... My inboxes contain a couple of thousands of messages (only gmx.com accounts + 1 local mail server account) all setup as pop3 not as imap...

Don't really know how to help You. Sorry.

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 08:02:10 PM »
Thanks for all the responses! I appreciate all the help. The reason I don't use claws mail was that I had some problems with it in the past:

1) I couldn't ever get a "unified" view where all my inboxes are under one place (and then broken out by address), all my sent items etc,
2) The spam filter SpamAssassin, while good, only would move stuff to one folder if it detected spam. In thunderbird, I can set up each account to move spam into their own folder and then have an overall spam folder in the unified view.
3) At one point, while trying to get my messages available for offline viewing, it permanently deleted a bunch of emails. Luckily, I restored it from my laptop by simply making sure my laptop did not update before saving those messages. Still, it left a bad taste that (3 years worth!) of the emails could just vanish. I'll admit, this one is probably my fault since I didn't know what I was doing but I consider myself at least a little tech savy and there was absolutely no warning.
4) Even with the addon for the calendar, I wasn't able to hook it up with my gmail account calendar.
5) Most of the people on the mailing list used POP3 instead of IMAP so there was some confusion about how to set those properly. But, when you have a laptop, a smartphone, a computer at your apt, your lab, and your parents house, POP3 just doesn't cut it!

Maybe if I get super tired of waiting, I'll try claws again but 3) and 4) really kind of scared me off and 1) I find really useful.

As to some of the other comments:

1) I don't think rebooting my friends server would help as there are several hundred email accounts there and none of them have complained.
2) Thunderbird checks my email every 5 minutes for my accounts.
3) I do use SSL but that's required by some of my accounts and I really don't feel comfortable dropping it.
4) I've never heard of thunderbird "hardware acceleration". How do I check?

On a side note, compacting the folders helped a little, but sadly, not enough. Again, thank you everyone for your suggestions :-).

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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 08:34:21 PM »
I am wondering... could this be caused by addon OR gtk theme...

I am using firetray addon only and qtcurve gtk theme...

Just a idea.

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Re: more thunderbird help....
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 09:44:56 PM »
Hm,

I'm using the default theme and the only extension I have is google contacts and lightning. I've tried disabling both but that has had no effect....

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 10:10:03 PM »
alphaace, do you clean up old emails? Delete things that are 3 years old and do maintenance like that? Perhaps things are just starting to fill up.. ???

I keep guessing don't I.. sorry. 


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