Author Topic: Damn you LO!  (Read 1881 times)

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2011, 03:35:50 AM »
Hi, bicol_willem,

Based on my (limited) searching, it seems that this is a bug in LibreOffice. You may have seen these tips/workarounds already; if not, you could give them a try:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692356#c17
"Bug 692356 - FreeType2 fails in Ghostscript: rotated characters wrong scaled." 6 May 2011.
[with LibreOffice 3.3.3]

Comment #17 supposedly resolved the issue for several users.

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https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=120368
"libreoffice 3.4 calc - print in landscape format." 6 June 2011.

Mvg,
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Checking that out. Thanks David

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2011, 03:38:33 AM »
bicol-willem,

I really feel for you.  I do!!  I saw all you other posts but since I couldn't reproduce the error with landscape nor reproduce the error with slow printing I didn't really know why should I react.

Bellow a photo of a page just printed in landscape A4 on a Canon Pixma IP4500 from a linux machine to a shared printer.  The LO version is 3.4.2

I know - no help.  Just showing that it does work for some hence the inability to help.

I really hope you come right.


longtom, In his first post, bicol_willem had explained that this problem only occurs with "long" page formats, A4 is no problem.

bicol_willem, apart from trying different apps, would Turboprint be an option for you?

http://www.turboprint.info/

You can download a 30 day trial version and if it works for you, you could stick with Linux at least. I was about to say, it's cheaper than Windows. Well, for sure it's cheaper than 3 Windows licences.

Might be the last straw if nothing else works.


Turboprint yeah .... had that years ago while running good ole SuSE. Worked like a charm.... (How could I forget?).
Will look again at that option as well, thanks.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2011, 03:43:43 AM »
You ever try IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0?


No I didn't. I tend to stay with the stuff available in the repo's as advised. But maybe I should look outside the box this time.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2011, 04:03:09 AM »
Hi, bicol_willem,

Based on my (limited) searching, it seems that this is a bug in LibreOffice. You may have seen these tips/workarounds already; if not, you could give them a try:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692356#c17
"Bug 692356 - FreeType2 fails in Ghostscript: rotated characters wrong scaled." 6 May 2011.
[with LibreOffice 3.3.3]

Comment #17 supposedly resolved the issue for several users.

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https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=120368
"libreoffice 3.4 calc - print in landscape format." 6 June 2011.

Mvg,
=david

First look at this on the laptop here:
"Regarding "how to add this option to driver" (comment #15):

It is /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstoraster which runs Ghostscript
and fortunately this is a bash script so that you can
add the "-dDisableFAPI=true" therein e.g. as follows:
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# Options we use with Ghostscript...
gsopts="-dQUIET -dPARANOIDSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dDisableFAPI=true"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------"

NO such file in /usr/lib/cups/filter/ here ...... (Interesting start). Will check on other PC's.

EDIT: Nope, on non of our machines as well as on a laptop of a friend here is a file "pstoraster" found...  ???
So this fix seems out of scope.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2011, 04:37:58 AM by bicol_willem »

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2011, 04:05:36 AM »
aguila: "I'ld suspect that it's more a CUPS than a LO problem."

All cups stuff installed mate .... :-[

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 04:10:45 AM »
aguila: "I'ld suspect that it's more a CUPS than a LO problem."

All cups stuff installed mate .... :-[

Sorry, so there's no simple solution.

But guessing from your prior post, this does have to do something with CUPS rather than with LO or am I wrong here?

Did you try with Abiword or KOffice to make sure LO is the culprit?
« Last Edit: August 15, 2011, 04:15:28 AM by aguila »
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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 04:51:27 AM »
aguila: "I'ld suspect that it's more a CUPS than a LO problem."

All cups stuff installed mate .... :-[

Sorry, so there's no simple solution.

But guessing from your prior post, this does have to do something with CUPS rather than with LO or am I wrong here?

Did you try with Abiword or KOffice to make sure LO is the culprit?


It looks to me Abiword in the repo's only covers a word processor. We also need spreadsheets.
KOffice I didn't try yet (time!). I will have to look in various directions offered and advised but I am still in disbelieve that the Document Foundation brings out a version, good enough for corporate use, containing such a HUGE showstopper bug. In other words, I still hope that there's a logical fix. Otherwise, shame on you DF! You spoke too early.

About cups as the culprit .... right now I wouldn't know. I only know its all there, cups-pdf included.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2011, 05:54:15 AM »
I don't say you should switch to any other program, was just thinking of checking if other programs are doing it right.

Good luck with your tries. Hope you find a solution.

Would be a shame to lose you because of printing issues.
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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2011, 06:09:36 AM »
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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2011, 06:36:08 AM »
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Never thought something as "simple" as a Office suite would break me away from Linux after 12 years

So, because one application does not work in its most recent version as you require you would change OS .....  that is silly.

You have many options ......  an older version of the same application; alternative applications such as Open Office, Symphony, and other office packages for Linux.

You want to use a supported office package for business?  Then buy the one that suits you. There are many available.

Of course if you want to change operating system, then do so, for whatever genuine reason you may have, but don't expect many folks to believe the reason given is the genuine one  .....  I wish you well with your new OS.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2011, 06:53:26 AM »
aguila: "I'ld suspect that it's more a CUPS than a LO problem."

All cups stuff installed mate .... :-[

Sorry, so there's no simple solution.

But guessing from your prior post, this does have to do something with CUPS rather than with LO or am I wrong here?

Did you try with Abiword or KOffice to make sure LO is the culprit?


It looks to me Abiword in the repo's only covers a word processor. We also need spreadsheets.
KOffice I didn't try yet (time!). I will have to look in various directions offered and advised but I am still in disbelieve that the Document Foundation brings out a version, good enough for corporate use, containing such a HUGE showstopper bug. In other words, I still hope that there's a logical fix. Otherwise, shame on you DF! You spoke too early.

About cups as the culprit .... right now I wouldn't know. I only know its all there, cups-pdf included.

Gnumeric is your spreadsheet to test your landscape printing with a spreadsheet.
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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2011, 07:23:14 AM »
bicol-willem... there's MS Office - try it and try to share it's results in our FOSS world.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2011, 07:30:03 AM »
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Never thought something as "simple" as a Office suite would break me away from Linux after 12 years

So, because one application does not work in its most recent version as you require you would change OS .....  that is silly.

You have many options ......  an older version of the same application; alternative applications such as Open Office, Symphony, and other office packages for Linux.

You want to use a supported office package for business?  Then buy the one that suits you. There are many available.

Of course if you want to change operating system, then do so, for whatever genuine reason you may have, but don't expect many folks to believe the reason given is the genuine one  .....  I wish you well with your new OS.

regards.

Thanks, I feel silly at times... (Gek he?).
A few things: I don't know what you was doing but I went many years ago through "dependency hell's" and there was little we could do the Windows world could. That has steadily improved and Linux today (like PCLinuxOS) has become simply great in many ways. There even was a time that I thought: "We have arrived". (That was at the end of the KDE 3.5 cicle).
But what I also saw over the years is that often and all of the sudden we lost path again. Now then, LO supposed to be the top of the bill right now and it simply fails..... (again, regressions). What also happened through the years is that I got older! I am loosing flexibility, if you like, and patience. I have spend soo many hours, nights and days in the past trying to solve all kind of seemingly silly problems but today I become tired of that if it takes too much and long. No longer it is fun.
Your statement: "You want to use a supported office package for business?" proves lack of insight. I live in the Philippines and try to help people  and schools getting going with free Linux and free office. Call a school "business" if you like but the average elementary and even high school here is NO business as it is NO joke. The teachers, learners etc., has NO money to buy a "supported office package for business". Teachers often get hardly paid for educating the children. I want to help them do so. So here are not that many options as you might think. At best they can resort to piracy. Not a very good sample for the kids..... Then fight with the Windows problems. In a world full of viruses etc. these memory sticks are deadly for not 100% guarded and maintained Windows environment. That takes time and knowledge, next to obvious lack of awareness and users discipline brings most Windows PC's down in no time. Lot's of these things collect dust only... Repair cost money...
It is already hard to get hands on the hardware for most.(Don't get me going on this!). So a free and working office suite on a free and working, more ridgid OS would be just fine. Don't you agree? Right now I can't help them in spite of all my experiences from the past because of a lousy bug and that is real silly. Mind you, meanwhile quite a few people worked steadily on their projects which now all of the sudden they can't print. Silly?
I suggest you look a bit deeper in certain cases before you go of on the keyboard. (Kijk verder dan de neus lang is).
O, and I am also old enough to recognize sarcasm.  :P
Anyway.... Maybe it is just age.

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2011, 07:39:55 AM »
bicol-willem... there's MS Office - try it and try to share it's results in our FOSS world.

Hehehehe, good one (I am aware of that and even tested MS-Office running under Wine).
Thing is MS-Office (and its costs) is THE thing to be avoided here. I know, as Bill and Steve, know that all we need is a .... MS monopoly. End of all problems  ;D

Aside of that, most available MS-Office suites here (like 2003) will probably not play nice with ODF. Yeah, might be a fix for again but then I rather fix a free office.

And... I know that a not properly working LO tells NOthing about Linux..... But many around me are already telling me that "this Linux idea" wasn't that good. What do they know? They just want/need to .... print. If that doesn't work on "that Linux PC's" .. well.
Alas, I tried!

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Re: Damn you LO!
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2011, 07:41:58 AM »
bicol_willem, I've been following this thread with interest.  I can tell that you sincerely want to find a solution by reading your replies.  Do what you have to do for the sake of your education based projects for now.  I would find it interesting to know that you havn't given up and will watch for reports from you in the future.  Best of luck to you!