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[ongoto]

Mplayer suffers the same fate, I am hoping that I can get directfb and gstreamerfb into the base

I found in our repo that vlc has a curses front end.  I don't know about X dependencies though.

[Hootiegibbon]

Mplayer suffers the same fate, I am hoping that I can get directfb and gstreamerfb into the base

I found in our repo that vlc has a curses front end.  I don't know about X dependencies though.

Vlc suffers the same, there is a dependancy for all of them that draws on of its libs from an X requireling app.

Jase

[gseaman]

I will probably need pointed to a tutorial on creating an rpm build environment without X! I've relied heavily on the automation of pkgutils and pkgutilskde4.

Galen

[ongoto]

Hootiegibbon

Thumbs up.  Install was a breeze.  Thanks for the clue on how to boot (LiveCD).  Installed vi-improved and one other and added a user and changed hostname.  Spent a little time copying aliases and other configs into the users directory and then tried to reboot.

No joy.  Segfault.  Can only boot in safe mode.  Getting messages about no resume binary and unable to create/find /dev/root/.

So far, I've tried a kernel line with noresume and no splash, but not helping much.  I remade initrd as well.   Still diggin'.

Thanks for all your time Hootiegibbon.  This is going to be a jewel.

[Archie]

Hootiegibbon

Thumbs up.  Install was a breeze.  Thanks for the clue on how to boot (LiveCD).  Installed vi-improved and one other and added a user and changed hostname.  Spent a little time copying aliases and other configs into the users directory and then tried to reboot.

No joy.  Segfault.  Can only boot in safe mode.  Getting messages about no resume binary and unable to create/find /dev/root/.

So far, I've tried a kernel line with noresume and no splash, but not helping much.  I remade initrd as well.   Still diggin'.

Thanks for all your time Hootiegibbon.  This is going to be a jewel.

Good for you! For me. while using Live mode, all is well. However, as soon as I tried to install it, I just get a return Killed error with no further information on how to proceed.







Any ideas?

[ongoto]

Sorry to hear that Archie
Try running draklive-install -t as root.

It's getting worse here too.  I've rebooted a few times, but now I can't boot at all, even in safe mode.  I suspect it's not shutting down properly.  I see warnings flash by about future time stamps, something to that effect, among all the others I noted.  I may have to reinstall and try again.

[AS]

Any ideas?

Hi Archie,

if 'm reading correctly your screenshot above, there is a problem related to available memory, either to few mem or badly recognized memory:

Creating Ramdisk - Usable memory: (18154/36300/57880Kb)

AS

[Archie]

Any ideas?

Hi Archie,

if 'm reading correctly your screenshot above, there is a problem related to available memory, either to few mem or badly recognized memory:

Creating Ramdisk - Usable memory: (18154/36300/57880Kb)

AS

Hmmm it's more likely too few - 64Mb. I was hoping to install PCLinuxOS to a 33Mhz, 64Mb 3 Gb machine that even Win95 won't run (it used to have W95). I was able to get Puppy 2.15 CE installed and running on it so if I can install PCLinuxOS on it (even barebones and spareribs), that would be an accomplishment. Do you think PCLinuxOS won't make it either?

[AS]

Any ideas?

Hi Archie,

if 'm reading correctly your screenshot above, there is a problem related to available memory, either to few mem or badly recognized memory:

Creating Ramdisk - Usable memory: (18154/36300/57880Kb)

AS

Hmmm it's more likely too few - 64Mb. I was hoping to install PCLinuxOS to a 33Mhz, 64Mb 3 Gb machine that even Win95 won't run (it used to have W95). I was able to get Puppy 2.15 CE installed and running on it so if I can install PCLinuxOS on it (even barebones and spareribs), that would be an accomplishment. Do you think PCLinuxOS won't make it either?

While running pCLI-NoX in virtualbox  (512 Mb RAM), the free command return approx. 50 Mb used.
Considering your system actually boot, (it fail later, but kernel boot is actually completed), I think that yes, it should be possible.
you may need to manually activate some swap space very early, and probably you need to do this manually:

- setup a swap partition using cfdisk or fdisk, say 256 Mb
- setup a linux partition (ext2/3/4) using all the remaining space
- format the swap using mkswap /dev/sdaX
- activate the swap filesystem: swapon /dev/sdaX
then retry the draklive install, when required choose use existing partitions

AS

[Archie]

Hmmm it's more likely too few - 64Mb. I was hoping to install PCLinuxOS to a 33Mhz, 64Mb 3 Gb machine that even Win95 won't run (it used to have W95). I was able to get Puppy 2.15 CE installed and running on it so if I can install PCLinuxOS on it (even barebones and spareribs), that would be an accomplishment. Do you think PCLinuxOS won't make it either?

While running pCLI-NoX in virtualbox  (512 Mb RAM), the free command return approx. 50 Mb used.
Considering your system actually boot, (it fail later, but kernel boot is actually completed), I think that yes, it should be possible.
you may need to manually activate some swap space very early, and probably you need to do this manually:

- setup a swap partition using cfdisk or fdisk, say 256 Mb
- setup a linux partition (ext2/3/4) using all the remaining space
- format the swap using mkswap /dev/sdaX
- activate the swap filesystem: swapon /dev/sdaX
then retry the draklive install, when required choose use existing partitions

AS

That's what I thought as well. I didn't think fdisk or cfdisk was installed so I'll have another go at it later. I'm also gonna do a run on VBox to see the text installer.

So here's what I'm gonna do: As soon as I logon, I will download and install cfisk (I'm more familiar with this and less likely to make mistake), create the necessary partitions, format and swapon. Then see what free returns and if I have enough mem, I will proceed. If not, (here's a stupid question and it shows I haven't done my homework!) is there a way I can free memory?  Maybe it'd be better to just reboot.

Anyway, more report later. Thanks, as.  

***EDIT***
Found that it was already on the system and I found out that /usr/sbin not on the guest PATH.

[AS]

is there a way I can free memory?

The only one I can think of... is to turn off as much services as possible, i.e. booting at runlevel 1 should minimize the RAM usage.

[Archie]

is there a way I can free memory?

The only one I can think of... is to turn off as much services as possible, i.e. booting at runlevel 1 should minimize the RAM usage.

Woohoo... I've never been that Almighty before!

[Hootiegibbon]

I suspect that I have missed a file/folder I will look in more detail later

Archie,

so long as that's a p2 or higher with a swap space, it should be good to go, if you lookat the cheat code thread there is a link to the kernel docs, do a search for the processor chipset,iwas able to boot live on a geode based thinclient but had to specift clocksource for that processor,the more you tell the kernel the less the system has to work.

I am also gonna look at some of the redundent apps and libs to strip out unnecessary to make way for what is needed.

I was hoping to try an iso build from scratch, using rpms, however I cannot find Texstar's post that explains how

Jase

[djohnston]

I shoulkd be able to add mc on the next spin , but groff again nas X based depends - although I have a work around that will get it to work, in the same way as drakxtools work.

Excellent work, Jase! Installed without a hitch. I have noticed one thing missing. There's a warning at bootup about resume binary missing. Sure enough, /usr/sbin/resume is missing.

I started to install mc, but backed off. In addition to several libx libraries it wanted to add, there was also groff, x11-data-bitmaps, and three x11-font packages. I would not have believed it.

Question. Does the user password use md5pass encryption? Every time I generated an md5pass string from a given password, password input failed for the user at login. I gave up and set the user password from the root account.

EDIT: I see now why resume isn't installed. It's provided by the suspend package which has a BUNCH of X package dependencies. Even though that error displays as a result of the resume= stanza in GRUB, I don't think it should be removed. I'd probably forget to put it back.

[Hootiegibbon]

I shoulkd be able to add mc on the next spin , but groff again nas X based depends - although I have a work around that will get it to work, in the same way as drakxtools work.

Excellent work, Jase! Installed without a hitch. I have noticed one thing missing. There's a warning at bootup about resume binary missing. Sure enough, /usr/sbin/resume is missing.

I started to install mc, but backed off. In addition to several libx libraries it wanted to add, there was also groff, x11-data-bitmaps, and three x11-font packages. I would not have believed it.

Question. Does the user password use md5pass encryption? Every time I generated an md5pass string from a given password, password input failed for the user at login. I gave up and set the user password from the root account.

EDIT: I see now why resume isn't installed. It's provided by the suspend package which has a BUNCH of X package dependencies. Even though that error displays as a result of the resume= stanza in GRUB, I don't think it should be removed. I'd probably forget to put it back.

Thanks once again for the kind words

MC depends on groff which I think was built with the X flags enabled - which is why libx11_6 is a dependency, how ever I will use the "work around" to get both groff and mc on the next iso along with the intel firmware and the suspend package that is missing. the work-around ensures that the executables are there , but with out the dependencies they drag in, this also makes then unseen by the package manager, although keeps 100% compatibility with the repo. 

regarding your question, not sure, I will look to see if there is a missing lib or similar

I would rather remove gstreamer and have mplayer as its more of an all in one solution  - for the command line, I also want to get more familier with the framebuffer, the app fbset is currently missing I will include this on the next (if you could look to see if theer is an update for fbset - would be cool)

Somthing else I would like to know about is fbui (linux framebuffer UI) which is - apparently - a framebuffer windowing system built into the kernel, there is even a related wiget set(?!) if anybody knows how to activate this it would be a cool thing

as usual I will be looking at these in between family life and work( as I did not win the lottery this week) so there is no timescale, although I would hope to get another iso out within 10days or so

Jase