pCLI-NoX feedback thread - stay ONTOPIC

[Hootiegibbon]

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[AS]

Hi Hootiegibbon,

downloaded the iso and successfully verified md5sum. Trying to test the pCLI-NoX in virtualbox, I'm unable to boot, gfxboot fails as expected, and providing parameters line doesn't help, always receive back: could not find kernel image liveCD.

playing with vbox parameters (ide/sata, chipset, IOAPIC ... ) doesn't help either.

Am I missing something ? or am I doing something wrong ?

AS

[Taco.22]

Hi Hootiegibbon,

Set up VB - booted from iso.  Set vga for 795 - boot proceeded through to setting up file system, then screen went black and nothing else.  Tried again with vga 794 - same result.  Unfortunately I can't try this on my test machine as we just packed it up.  We drive north 1000km tomorrow and don't come back until next Friday.  They say a week in politics is a long time - in computerland it is a lifetime!!  Hopefully I can find a computer and keep track of how this is all going.  Talk about timing    

[Hootiegibbon]

AS,

tbh I had not tested it in VB , as i tend not to use virtual environments unless absolutly necessary (even than I tend to use qemu

the boot parameter is

LiveCD (its case sensitive)

type a Capital L then <tab> it wil show  the entry or try tapping the <tab> key twice before typing it should show the other options also

Console vga= should also work.

Jase

[Hootiegibbon]

Hi Hootiegibbon,

Set up VB - booted from iso.  Set vga for 795 - boot proceeded through to setting up file system, then screen went black and nothing else.  Tried again with vga 794 - same result.  Unfortunately I can't try this on my test machine as we just packed it up.  We drive north 1000km tomorrow and don't come back until next Friday.  They say a week in politics is a long time - in computerland it is a lifetime!!  Hopefully I can find a computer and keep track of how this is all going.  Talk about timing    

Try the default (no vga entry) does virtual box do framebuffer emulation?

Jase

[AS]

AS,

tbh I had not tested it in VB , as i tend not to use virtual environments unless absolutly necessary (even than I tend to use qemu

the boot parameter is

LiveCD (its case sensitive)

...

That was, thank you, I was missing the first capital L!

AS

[Tuxfriend]

It booted with
LiveCD 3 vga=788
fine.

Now I'm installing it ... 

[Taco.22]

Typical VB - sometimes works, other times not.  Burn't the iso to cd and booted from that.  It worked!!  Tried to get clever and installed w3m to the live session to post here, but too much time lost trying to learn new tricks.  Can see why graphical browser was invented!  Can't install obviously - my wife would kill me messing up her OB install.  Look forward to playing with this when back from Kalbarri.  Best of luck in the testing.  

EDIT - OOPS, maybe not VB! Forgot to put the "=" in   All good in VB.

[Tuxfriend]

I installed LXDE, but reboot is stuck at 'setting hostname localhost'. Booting in failsafe mode gives me gdm (which I installed earlier), login works, but neither with Synaptic nor within a terminal update of packages is possible. RPM doesn't work. Hmmm ...

EDIT: Reboot in 'normal' mode works, but takes several minutes before it leaves the 'setting hostname localhost' message. RPM still doesn't work.

In Synaptic, I get the following error message: "could not create RPM database iterator"

I think I'll start all over again, trying to do things differently.

My way so far was this: installing without xdm, with GRUB in text mode. Installing gdm (pulls in 64,5 MBytes), Synaptic (pulls in 6,5 MB), task-X11 for doing X11 configuration (pulls in 31,7 MBytes), X11-virtualbox (or what's it called, pulls in around 2 MBytes). After reboot in failsafe mode, I was able install LXDE (pulling in a further 72 MBytes, with Firefox etc.). After that, RPM didn't work anymore.

So, back to the drawing board for me ...   

[Tuxfriend]

So, beginning anew, here goes:

- installing IN LIVECD mode: 'pclinuxos-gfxboot-theme' and 'xdm'
- then I was able to install the LiveCD with GRUB in graphic mode without a hitch
- reboot worked, with nice graphics, RPM still running as well
- next I installed 'task-X11'
- rebooted, then I got an XDM screen
- next up: installing fluxbox ...

Looking good so far ... 

[AS]

EDITED:
Because this issue appear to affect several flavors of PCLinuxOS and it's not strictly related to pCLI-NoX, I have reported it separately on a new thread:
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,93998.msg790576.html#msg790576




Installed pCLI-NoX in virtualbox, but something is wrong at the start/end of draklive-install:

this is the (redirectd stderr) log of draklive-install:

umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
mke2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
tar: ./var/run/uuidd/request: socket ignored
tar: ./var/run/acpid.socket: socket ignored
tar: ./var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: socket ignored
tar: ./var/run/avahi-daemon/socket: socket ignored
error reading information on service atd: No such file or directory
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 2
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 3
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 4
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 5
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 2
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 3
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 4
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 5
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 2
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 3
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 4
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 5
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 2
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 3
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 4
Warning: syslog is needed by crond in runlevel 5
error reading information on service xinetd: No such file or directory
error reading information on service acpi: No such file or directory
/usr/share/bootsplash/scripts/make-boot-splash: line 18: plymouth-set-default-theme: command not found
ln: failed to create symbolic link `./current': File exists
Can't call method "get_resolution" on an undefined value at -e line 1.
chroot: failed to run command `/sbin/alsactl': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `/mnt/install/etc/draklive-install.d/sysconfig/*': No such file or directory
umount: /mnt/install: device is busy.
        (In some cases useful info about processes that use
         the device is found by lsof( or fuser(1))
umount: /mnt/install: device is busy.
        (In some cases useful info about processes that use
         the device is found by lsof( or fuser(1))

fuser -v /mnt/install return:

Code: [Select]

                    USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
/mnt/install:        root      mount /mnt/install
                     root      .rc.. acpid

Also noticed that acpid daemon has been started (restarted ?) immediately before grub boot loader installation, if this may help.
Trying /etc/init.d/acpid stop doesn't help
Instead killall acpid result in acpid: exiting
at this point umount /mnt/install work as expected.

AS

[Tuxfriend]

OK, continuing:
- before booting, I had to put a 3 in the boot line to get into init 3 mode (XDM without a desktop is not very smart, I found out  )
- installing pcmanfm (because Fluxbox needs it): pulls in another 58,8 MBytes   (gnome-icon-theme alone needs around 34 MBytes)
- then I was able to install 'task-fluxbox' which pulled in another ~9 MBytes
- after a normal reboot (without 3), I tried logging in via XDM -- failed!
- so rebooting with 3 again, installed gdm (maybe it works better than XDM?), pulling in another 32,6 MBytes
- normal reboot, then I got that darn 'setting hostname localhost' waiting game again. Arrrgghhhh!
- I had enough waiting, so I called strng-c, and got the message 'cannot create temporary file!', still hanging

So: installing GDM does break something.

I'll give it a new try. There must be a way out ... 

[Hootiegibbon]

I installed LXDE, but reboot is stuck at 'setting hostname localhost'. Booting in failsafe mode gives me gdm (which I installed earlier), login works, but neither with Synaptic nor within a terminal update of packages is possible. RPM doesn't work. Hmmm ...

EDIT: Reboot in 'normal' mode works, but takes several minutes before it leaves the 'setting hostname localhost' message. RPM still doesn't work.

In Synaptic, I get the following error message: "could not create RPM database iterator"

I think I'll start all over again, trying to do things differently.

My way so far was this: installing without xdm, with GRUB in text mode. Installing gdm (pulls in 64,5 MBytes), Synaptic (pulls in 6,5 MB), task-X11 for doing X11 configuration (pulls in 31,7 MBytes), X11-virtualbox (or what's it called, pulls in around 2 MBytes). After reboot in failsafe mode, I was able install LXDE (pulling in a further 72 MBytes, with Firefox etc.). After that, RPM didn't work anymore.

So, back to the drawing board for me ...   

This is NOT a graphical mode version, its aim is to provide an cli base to experiment with as noted in the other thread say no to xdm, and select grub-text at the bootloader (not tried lilo yet) 

Its very much an alpha release, with work it will provide an excellent graphical environment that wil be very quick

this iso has no X deps present - although other apps will draw in deps

you may need to adjust sources.list to install further apps as i think it nay still be set to a minimal set of apps (main & updates)

to get the most out out of what it has I would suggest logging in as guest at the text login type 'man screen' (w/o quotes) then use alt+F2 to open another tty login log in there as guest also and type screen then use either alt+F1/ or F2 or alt+left /right to change tty - get to learn screen, lynx and the oter default apps. 

try out the included lynx web browser 

 

[Archie]

On an initial test run, I used a LiveUSB and it booted without any incident. As a matter of fact it was fast on the VAIO. I now understand why Jase did not install W3M. It pulled in 14.5Mb worth of libraries and depends. GTK+2 alone was 6.2Mb. How large is complete Lynx compared to W3M?

I was posting on the thread using Lynx but had to REISUB. Gotta do me a refresher course.

In addition, I also noted that only gnustep.ethz.ch was enabled. Any particular reason for this?

Will startup on the VAIO again tomorrow via the same method before attempting to install on my oldest but dearest laptop - an NEC LaVie NX. Not my first but the certainly has some good memories in it (and I'm not referring to RAM)!

Anyway, my first impression is though there are still bugs to squash, I think we got a gold nugget here. Congratulations, Jase. I believe this is going to be a hit with many of our older, geeky members, who understand the potential of starting from the base.

Excellent work, dude.

[Hootiegibbon]

On an initial test run, I used a LiveUSB and it booted without any incident. As a matter of fact it was fast on the VAIO. I now understand why Jase did not install W3M. It pulled in 14.5Mb worth of libraries and depends. GTK+2 alone was 6.2Mb. How large is complete Lynx compared to W3M?

I was posting on the thread using Lynx but had to REISUB. Gotta do me a refresher course.

In addition, I also noted that only gnustep.ethz.ch was enabled. Any particular reason for this?

Will startup on the VAIO again tomorrow via the same method before attempting to install on my oldest but dearest laptop - an NEC LaVie NX. Not my first but the certainly has some good memories in it (and I'm not referring to RAM)!

Anyway, my first impression is though there are still bugs to squash, I think we got a gold nugget here. Congratulations, Jase. I believe this is going to be a hit with many of our older, geeky members, who understand the potential of starting from the base.

Excellent work, dude.

Thanks fo rthe kind words.

Yea with w3m I think it need rebuilding as one of the deps of it deps requires an app that needs X....

sources.list will need to be amended to a full set , as during its development I only needed main and updates.
this is why Tuxfriend is having issues...

I hope Galen can rebuild w3m without any X related stuff as it is my favorite text browser lynx is as secue as it gets but....


Mplayer suffers the same fate, I am hoping that I can get directfb and gstreamerfb into the base

I shoulkd be able to add mc on the next spin , but groff again nas X based depends - although I have a work around that will get it to work, in the same way as drakxtools work.


Jase