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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2011, 12:32:56 PM »
sorry, my eyes not the best...

If you install with lomanager, what is the latest window from lomanager?
And how could the messages from this window?


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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2011, 12:53:47 PM »
utu,
I just upgraded LO in one of my installations successfully.
I ran lomanager from terminal in debug mode
lomanager --debug

There is a long output there and I didn't analyse it but may be you'll find something there?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 12:56:50 PM by Vorteks »

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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2011, 01:27:40 PM »
@ Leiche

Not so.  Reply indicates NOTHING found.


Hi utu,
try Important Notes 1b) Alternative Offline installation and see if that works. In case you need another LO-locale add this after running the offline installation using lomanager 3.4.1.
hope this helps,
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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2011, 01:32:40 PM »
@ Leiche

The final (fifth) on-screen note says "libreoffice now available ...have fun".
It has an OK sign, but disappears in about five seconds without any input.

@ Vorteks

Here's the tail of the lxterminal after inputting lomanager --debug
after the fifth screen has disappeared.
Sorry, I haven't figured how to include a file enclosure.

011-07-03 15:18:26 (86.4 KB/s) - “LibO_3.4.1_Linux_x86_helppack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.mirrorlist” saved [20289]

   installing package libobasis3.4-en-US-help-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 15MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-beanshell-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 16MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-javascript-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 17MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-mediawiki-publisher-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 29MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-nlpsolver-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 30MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-pdf-import-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 32MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presentation-minimizer-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 34MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presenter-screen-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-python-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-report-builder-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 44MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-binfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-gnome-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-graphicfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 66MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-javafilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-kde-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooofonts-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooolinguistic-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-pyuno-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 93MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-testtool-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-xsltfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libreoffice3.4-mandriva-menus-3.4-103.noarch needs 96MB on the /union filesystem
E: Error while running transaction
E: Handler silently failed
cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/libreoffice34-*': No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# C


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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2011, 01:36:59 PM »
and what is the output from this command?

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find /usr/share/applications -name libreoffice*

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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2011, 01:40:01 PM »
@ Leiche

The final (fifth) on-screen note says "libreoffice now available ...have fun".
It has an OK sign, but disappears in about five seconds without any input.

@ Vorteks

Here's the tail of the lxterminal after inputting lomanager --debug
after the fifth screen has disappeared.
Sorry, I haven't figured how to include a file enclosure.

011-07-03 15:18:26 (86.4 KB/s) - “LibO_3.4.1_Linux_x86_helppack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.mirrorlist” saved [20289]

   installing package libobasis3.4-en-US-help-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 15MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-beanshell-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 16MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-javascript-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 17MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-mediawiki-publisher-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 29MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-nlpsolver-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 30MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-pdf-import-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 32MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presentation-minimizer-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 34MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presenter-screen-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-python-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-report-builder-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 44MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-binfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-gnome-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-graphicfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 66MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-javafilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-kde-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooofonts-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooolinguistic-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-pyuno-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 93MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-testtool-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-xsltfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libreoffice3.4-mandriva-menus-3.4-103.noarch needs 96MB on the /union filesystem
E: Error while running transaction
E: Handler silently failed
cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/libreoffice34-*': No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# C



Hi utu,
the output clearly states that you are trying to install LibreOffice on a live-system (/union) with insufficient space ( less than 100MB) and for this reason the LO-packages can not get installed. Make sure you have enough space to install LO, at least 1GB as far as I remember is needed.
-p.

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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2011, 01:43:42 PM »
@ Leiche

The final (fifth) on-screen note says "libreoffice now available ...have fun".
It has an OK sign, but disappears in about five seconds without any input.

@ Vorteks

Here's the tail of the lxterminal after inputting lomanager --debug
after the fifth screen has disappeared.
Sorry, I haven't figured how to include a file enclosure.

011-07-03 15:18:26 (86.4 KB/s) - “LibO_3.4.1_Linux_x86_helppack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.mirrorlist” saved [20289]

   installing package libobasis3.4-en-US-help-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 15MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-beanshell-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 16MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-javascript-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 17MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-mediawiki-publisher-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 29MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-nlpsolver-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 30MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-pdf-import-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 32MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presentation-minimizer-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 34MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-presenter-screen-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-python-script-provider-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 40MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-extension-report-builder-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 44MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-binfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-gnome-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 65MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-graphicfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 66MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-javafilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-kde-integration-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 67MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooofonts-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-ooolinguistic-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 78MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-pyuno-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 93MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-testtool-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libobasis3.4-xsltfilter-3.4.1-103.i586 needs 94MB on the /union filesystem
   installing package libreoffice3.4-mandriva-menus-3.4-103.noarch needs 96MB on the /union filesystem
E: Error while running transaction
E: Handler silently failed
cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/libreoffice34-*': No such file or directory
[root@localhost ~]# C




Hi utu,
the output clearly states that you are trying to install LibreOffice on a live-system (/union) with insufficient space ( less than 100MB) and for this reason the LO-packages can not get installed. Make sure you have enough space to install LO, at least 1GB as far as I remember is needed.
-p.


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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2011, 01:51:26 PM »
Hi again utu,
you said you made your own PCLinuxOS liveCD. You could have installed LO on your system and then do your remaster so LO would already be included in your PCLinuxOS liveCD. Would that be an option?
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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2011, 01:55:10 PM »
Mystery solved.  Thanks to all, especially Vorteks.
Process seems to have failed when it reach the 1.2 Gb
that was available to it.

I never intended to allot more than 250 Mb or so for
LibreOffice.  That's all it takes in Knoppix 6.4.4.
I expect this might all fit on 4 Gb SD Card, but not
as efficiently as I would have hoped.

Will have to look at an HDD install of LibreOffice,
I never would have expected it to require Gbs.

Thanks again, all.

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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2011, 02:00:24 PM »
Mystery solved.  Thanks to all, especially Vorteks.
Process seems to have failed when it reach the 1.2 Gb
that was available to it.

I never intended to allot more than 250 Mb or so for
LibreOffice.  That's all it takes in Knoppix 6.4.4.
I expect this might all fit on 4 Gb SD Card, but not
as efficiently as I would have hoped.

Will have to look at an HDD install of LibreOffice,
I never would have expected it to require Gbs.

Thanks again, all.

once installed LO needs the same space on Knoppix or wherever. LO needs a certain amount of space once installed, + during installation quite some temporary space is needed, at the 'worst point' a total of ~1.2GB is needed depending on the LO-locale you selected.
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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2011, 02:11:23 PM »
@ pinoc

I think you are quite right about re-mastering being the solution here.
In knoppix, LibreOffice comes in the compressed OS image.  Trying to
bring it into the unionfs uncompressed is not going to be very space
efficient. I do have a 4 Gb SDCard, so I'm just being stubborn.

Trouble is, I have two ideals, a small SD and NO re-mastering.
Maybe one other ideal, something faster and more efficient than
network manager.  PCLinuxOS's wifi set-up is first rate, best I've found
and I hope to adapt that to my purposes.

Cheers.

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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2011, 03:01:02 PM »
if you remaster a system with LO already installed then you will get a compressed iso-image which behaves the same way as knoppix does. And that means that any application you run in a live-session (also LO) must first be uncompressed from the iso so it can work normally. Again, no difference between PCLinuxOS and any other live-session distro.
The difference for LO space requirements is the following
a) installing LO in a live-session: LO-packages (~ 150MB) + unpacking all packages and preparing for installation (~460MB) + copying files in installation folder /opt/libreoffice3.4 (~390MB); => towards the end of the installation process you require space for all 3 parts (~1GB, or even 1.3GB if you need to also add Java which is required for LO) and only in the final  step of the installation the original packages and their uncompressed sources are removed (150+460MB). Meaning you need 1GB to get this working even if the final space requirement is only 390MB.
b) running LO from within live-session: the LO-installation (normally 390MB) is compressed and occupies ~140MB of the iso-image. When starting LO in the live-session the 140MB will have to be uncompressed, so you only need 250MB space to run LO in this case.

=> I think you can do a remaster with LO and get this working on a 4GB SDCard. If not with KDE2011.06 it should work with one of the Mini-versions once they are out.
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Re: lomanager (SOLVED)
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2011, 05:16:53 PM »
@ pinoc

What I prefer is a small LiveUSB. 2 Gb works very well.

I want Linux and wifi and LibreOffice as my base system.
I want all that in my compressed system which is de-
compressed only once, at boot or on first use. That's
what Knoppix 6.4 does. That takes 800 Mb and leaves
1200 Mb for other purposes. Of this, I use 800 Mb for
persistence and 400 Mb for a compressed backup of
persistence. I've only used half these spaces in five
months of tweaking.

Network manager doesn't pull its weight in Knoppix
in my estimation.  Were I patient enough to re-master
Knoppix, I would remove its network manager, adriane
and compiz and add back mc, locate & ntp. This would all
fit very well in 2 Gb, now with room to spare. If I
were smart enough, I would adapt PCLinuxOS's wifi
handling to replace my simple-minded replacemnt for
Knoppix's network manager, and use the new extra space
in that way.

This same scheme would work with modification to
PCLinuxOS, but I'd have to find something to trade
out of its current compressed image to find room for
LibreOffice. PCLinuxOS's linux and wifi capabilities are
superb, but something's else has gotta go were I to
remaster PCLinuxOS to suit my fancy.

LibreOffice, or any really large component, in the un-
compressed LiveUSB storage area is a wrong move in my
estimation.

Best Regards, utu.