Death of Sudoers ?

[YouCanToo]

IIRC ........  the sudo package has been moved to the 'special' section of the repository, so some effort is needed to find and install it.
It does not therefore show, by default, as available in Synaptic.

The whole point is that the the OP has not had his choice taken away as he originally posted.
"I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?"

He still has the choice to install and use it if he wishes. He also has the choice to bitch about it, which he did.  Just because Linux gives one freedom of choice, does not necessarily mean it will be ease.

I hope his flame retardant shorts kept his behind from getting singed to bad.

[ericthered]

I have to say, it takes all of two minutes to install sudo from synaptic and get it configured for everyday use.  It is better to have it removed from the default installation and protect newbies from dangerous commands.

I've used sudo ONLY for setting up shutdown and reboot commands in an openbox environment.  Otherwise I've used su -c 'command' for the latter part of my Linux career with no problems.

[Just17]

I do agree that due to the "brown one's" influence on mostly new users, something needed to be done about it.
I am not certain that the best solution has yet been found ......  but it is workable.

[Archie]

I told myself I wasn't gonna post in this thread but I could not help it. I am a profound user of sudo, and a serious one at that. I agree with the removal and the user's installation.

I reckon if a user doesn't know how to install it, they probably don't know how to use it.

[johnmart]

I think the link o-p posted sums it up clearly.
I'm convinced. 

[Just17]

IIRC ........  the sudo package has been moved to the 'special' section of the repository, so some effort is needed to find and install it.
It does not therefore show, by default, as available in Synaptic.

The whole point is that the the OP has not had his choice taken away as he originally posted.
"I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?"

He still has the choice to install and use it if he wishes. He also has the choice to bitch about it, which he did.  Just because Linux gives one freedom of choice, does not necessarily mean it will be ease.

I hope his flame retardant shorts kept his behind from getting singed to bad.

Lets look at this from the perspective of someone seeking to install sudo on their PCLOS machine.
They check Synaptic and it does not show.
They change repository and still it does not show.
It is in effect - for them - not available.

Now if they had the knowledge to enable another section in the repository of their choice it would no doubt show as available for installation.

So although the choice has not been taken from anyone, it can seem that way, as it has been made difficult to find.

regards.

[T6]

options?

this is linux!

there is no options!

[ElCuervo]

IIRC ........  the sudo package has been moved to the 'special' section of the repository, so some effort is needed to find and install it.
It does not therefore show, by default, as available in Synaptic.

No "special" effort required here, just  a simple Synaptic>Search, and then I see exactly what's shown in YouCanToo's image... 

Maybe I'm just special!

[Just17]

IIRC ........  the sudo package has been moved to the 'special' section of the repository, so some effort is needed to find and install it.
It does not therefore show, by default, as available in Synaptic.

No "special" effort required here, just  a simple Synaptic>Search, and then I see exactly what's shown in YouCanToo's image... 

Maybe I'm just special!

Nothing special about it.

Uninstall it .......  then try to install it again ......... 

[Vorteggs]

I don't need sudo. I can su.

I don't understand the logics behind sudo.

[T6]

be lazy?   

[Vorteggs]

As I recall myself I was too lazy since the time I remember myself.

[Neal ManBear]

I don't understand the logics behind sudo.

Used as it was meant to be used, it is a tool of "convenience."
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,90479.0.html

Used in the buttu way, it is a way to make a linux system behave more like windows; i.e. users can do what they please, cause they are full admin of the system.

[Bald Brick]

I don't need sudo. I can su.

I don't understand the logics behind sudo.

It makes sense if you have several users and want to give some of them limited administrative rights, but not root's password. In most cases it's just a way of decreasing your security.

[Vorteggs]

I don't need sudo. I can su.

I don't understand the logics behind sudo.

It makes sense if you have several users and  (you) want to give some of them limited administrative rights, but not root's password. In most cases it's just a way of decreasing your security.

Where's the program then?

Being admin I could manually do anything for restricting users. Is sudo a tool(program that helps the admin) by this point of view? Mind that you have to generate the sudoers file. Where's the tool then?