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KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« on: June 03, 2011, 09:24:53 PM »
As in another thread, am clueless about netbooks.

Posting from PCLOS 2010.12 LXDE on HP mini 1000 and all seems working except sound.

1 gb RAM / 60 gb HD
cpu - intel atom CPU N270
video - mobile 945GME express integrated
eth0 - 88E8040 pci fast etherent
wlan0 ( for some reason this is listed as eth1 in network center but is working as w/l) - BCM 4312 LP-PHY
sound - N10 / ICH 7 family high def

All seems working but wondering if anyone w/ experience loading PCLOS 2010.12 on a little netbook like this? I can upgrade to 2gb RAM if necessary. Is KDE 4.6.3 too heavy?

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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 10:04:43 PM »
the n270 is a 1.6ghz cpu, i am writing this from a n455, a 1.66ghz cpu with the same ram

all perfect with kde4

i use it everywhere, i connect external monitors, projectors, speakers, usb flash drives, external hard disks, external dvd burners, all i can think of and everything works very well

have been using it since september last year, nothing big to report, be sure to use the latest kernel

it accepts perfectly compiz and 3d is decent, flash is acceptable with the latest xorg update on most pages

the biggest difference between those two systems is the video card, yours is older than mine, i have a gma 3150 but yours is a gma 945

you have to test how it performs with the livecd, probably will work well
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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 11:32:28 PM »
Great news, This little bugger is waaay to small for me but picked it up for a song and turns out the audio was a lid contact problem (so far) . Just flopped the lid opened and closed a few times and it's back. I noticed same problem in Wxp (scratchy sound like a bad pot) so.. sound up and AOK.

Probably give this to kid #3. running LXDE on it now but will give KDE4 a shot and see what happens. The only thing is I'd like to keep Wxp for the oddball task for the kids. (I haven't used Windows in 4 yrs.) I think you need to reset iPods(gen 4) to default name from within itunes to be recognized by Amarok or Clementine if they renamed it with some funky string which they did. (/,# etc.) Know anything about this?

She thought she might like Mint 9 on a huge compaq lappy but they left out hplip printer drivers? WTH? And the network settings are not persistent so it just confirms my already bad impressions of *buntu. I have loaded various incarnations of Canonical stuff on various hdwr over the past 3 years and just CANNOT recommend it to anyone.

PLCOS and (MDV) just load onto everything. I have a George foreman Grill and a rototiller I think this distro will run just fine.

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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 06:03:30 AM »
"if they renamed it with some funky string which they did. (/,# etc.) Know anything about this?"

no, sorry, i always avoided like the pest everything from apple

"I have loaded various incarnations of Canonical stuff on various hdwr over the past 3 years and just CANNOT recommend it to anyone."

why?  it is a fantastic distro!(end of sarcasm)
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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 01:54:06 AM »
So far so good booting 2010 KDE via USB on this little netbook. Most desktop effects working. Amazing on this processor and 1 gb RAM. Still problems with audio. Maybe it might be something other than bad lid connector. Have read other threads about this issue and Intel N10 ICH7 using snd-hda module. Alsa mixer all up and unmuted. Fn volume buttons on netbook work graphically but to no avail. Can't remember what I did on LXDE install to get it working. Haven't checked  headphone jack yet.

Obviously haven't installed so no upgrades so maybe  that will fix  or trying phonon after install. Will have to defrag Wxp. This leaves about 39gb on the 60g internal drive. Will play around and keep posted.

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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 09:22:18 AM »
in my netbook, the audio worked perfectly from the beginning, it has the same ich7 that you have afik

that includes audio controls, the FN key works well

the kernel update, maybe 2.6.38.4 brought screen brightness controls without my intervention(2.6.37 didn't had)

about kde4, the desktop effects, not sure if after you update to the latest those effects will be usable, hopefully yes

kde4 is heavy but should run well on a 800 mhz cpu(maybe smaller) and 512 of ram, it is better to have more ram and 1 gb seems to be the perfect spot, it doesn't use 200 mbs of it but if it doesn't have it, it will boot terribly slow and system will feel slow all the time

"Will have to defrag Wxp. This leaves about 39gb on the 60g internal drive. Will play around and keep posted."

i recommend you to backup first, wipe the hard disk and the install xp, later linux and leave linux add the xp partition to the boot menu

defrag xp and resize partition is a dangerous task, i personally wouldn't do it
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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 07:20:06 PM »
I think the lid is still an issue, but missed speaker level in alsamixer and now have sound (two gremlins playing tag-team)

The Wxp install was from previous owner and was fairly new  so no data worries. I know it's risky but I have resized previous Win partitions  with no problems, but I think this is an NTFS-3 so you may have a point.  Also there is NO Win recovery partition on the drive so if I bork it I am SOL. (not going to futz with MS). I did install Linux first then Win once but I thought it was a PITA and so have always loaded the penguin after since that time.

Any tips on resizing as it's been a couple years and not sure if i ever did it with NTFS 3. Pretty sure I did it with NTFS but don't know if this "new" version of  NTFS partition will present unique issues. The Win partition required little defragging and looks pretty barren with most of the Win Apps taking up about 21g of space and the rest just junk from the previous owner. ( you would think they would at least clean it up)

Again, there will be no tears if I wipe Win, but would like to save it if possible since I have no way to reinstall it.

Any thoughts?
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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 07:26:26 PM »
if you want to keep the xp you can use a tool to recover the the serial key for that xp if it is not  readable under the netbook on the coa

the installation disc if it is a winxp oem home, not sure if it can be downloaded form the microsoft website

about ntfs-3, that sounds like the support on linux, resize a partition form linux using that, not sure how that goes
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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 02:39:51 PM »
Coolness! Just noticed SD slot on HP mini. ried to load pclos2010 KDE on it via pendrive type card reader but problems which I think turned out to be related to the card  being a 4g SDHC. So took an older 1gb standard SD and the .iso loaded onto it via USB creator !! woo hoo!!

Now we dont have that big pendrive hanging out the side of the lappy that can get snapped off. This just keeps getting better.

Having read quite a bit about resizing ntfs-3g it looks not easily do-able w/o third party commercial software. Now just need to read up on persistence and I guess kids can save files to a pendrive.

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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 01:03:27 AM »
Coolness! Just noticed SD slot on HP mini. ried to load pclos2010 KDE on it via pendrive type card reader but problems which I think turned out to be related to the card  being a 4g SDHC. So took an older 1gb standard SD and the .iso loaded onto it via USB creator !! woo hoo!!

Now we dont have that big pendrive hanging out the side of the lappy that can get snapped off. This just keeps getting better.

Having read quite a bit about resizing ntfs-3g it looks not easily do-able w/o third party commercial software. Now just need to read up on persistence and I guess kids can save files to a pendrive.

Thanks

Wait, can a SD memory card function just as a usb pendrive insofar as booting is concerned?

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Re: KDE 4 on HP mini 1000
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 01:04:21 PM »
Coolness! Just noticed SD slot on HP mini. ried to load pclos2010 KDE on it via pendrive type card reader but problems which I think turned out to be related to the card  being a 4g SDHC. So took an older 1gb standard SD and the .iso loaded onto it via USB creator !! woo hoo!!

Now we dont have that big pendrive hanging out the side of the lappy that can get snapped off. This just keeps getting better.

Having read quite a bit about resizing ntfs-3g it looks not easily do-able w/o third party commercial software. Now just need to read up on persistence and I guess kids can save files to a pendrive.

Thanks

Wait, can a SD memory card function just as a usb pendrive insofar as booting is concerned?

Oh, yeah!

That's exactly what I have for my wife's EeePC (701)...one of the first with the tiny 4Gb SSD drive...too small for re-installing anything worthwhile, plus by leaving it intact, it's still "factory".  Put a 16Gb SD card in the slot, installed from LiveUSB and she's been good ever since...

...need to get it from her one day.  She's many weeks out of date  :(.  That's the only PC I don't update remotely, because the write speed of the SD card really takes a hit, so I need to get it from her for a day and a night (backup, first, update, test).

But the point is it boots and runs beautifully from SD card on the internal reader.
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