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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2011, 08:23:29 AM »
No offense, but the update yesterday everything worked normally with this version of bios


yesterday ... you reported "kernel panic":
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,91880.msg771334.html#msg771334

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2011, 09:26:50 AM »
Dell is working through me instead, but do not update kernel
Yesterday I upgraded via synaptic and after rebooting, the Dell - kernel panic
I do not know why
can not even run the original installation of the new live CD
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2011, 09:56:57 AM »
Dell is working through me instead, but do not update kernel
Yesterday I upgraded via synaptic and after rebooting, the Dell - kernel panic
I do not know why
can not even run the original installation of the new live CD


Next time try as root, but after the BIOS upgrade, and resetting the BIOS parameters.
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2011, 03:44:08 AM »
Please excuse Frontosa, he used translator, so his topics were also incomprehensible and unintelligible for me :) So i wll write next time nstead of him to achieve greater understanding...

Dell is in operation,  the only one installation that I we were able to install was the Czech communty lvecd, but still work only with lilo. We tred also original LiveCD with KDE and E17, installation faled before began (with same symptoms as wrote before).

We are waiting for delivery of the floppy drive to update bios, before we try anythng else with grub and its drive detections.
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2011, 09:50:07 PM »
Please excuse Frontosa, he used translator, so his topics were also incomprehensible and unintelligible for me :) So i wll write next time nstead of him to achieve greater understanding...

Thanks, Helium. That will help.

Dell is in operation,  the only one installation that I we were able to install was the Czech communty lvecd, but still work only with lilo. We tred also original LiveCD with KDE and E17, installation faled before began (with same symptoms as wrote before).

If Lilo is working for you, by all means, use Lilo instead of GRUB. Both are available. When you come to the bootloader to use screen, choose Lilo instead of GRUB.



 
We are waiting for delivery of the floppy drive to update bios, before we try anythng else with grub and its drive detections.

That's good. BIOS should be updated. Here's another thought. When you have the case off and are replacing the floppy drive, clean everything. Blow out all dust and lint. Check to see that all drive cables and cooling fans are properly seated.

There's a hint on the hard drive problems in one of Frontosa's earlier posts:

guest@localhost guest]$ draklive-install
Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 at /usr/lib/libDrakX/mygtk2.pm line 20.
/media/ user
Backtrace has 11 calls on stack:
  11: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_assert+0x29) [0xb75e98b9]
  10: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb761f435]
  9: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb76202b7]
  8: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb76216aa]
  7: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb75ee28e]
  6: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_disk_add_partition+0x271) [0xb75f1bf1]
  5: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb76230e3]
  4: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb762330e]
  3: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_disk_new+0x79) [0xb75f2a29]
  2: /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/c/stuff/stuff.so(XS_c__stuff_get_disk_type+0x1e6) [0xb767eb91]
  1: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so(Perl_pp_entersub+0x56e) [0x4a32a1ee]
A bug has been detected in GNU Parted.  Refer to the web site of parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html for more information of what could be useful for bug submitting!  Please email a bug report to bug-parted@gnu.org containing at least the version (2.3) and the following message:  Assertion (head_size <= 63) at dos.c:661 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed.
[guest@localhost guest]$

The messages highlighted in red show a drive geometry detection failure. I believe it also shows that gparted was used to partition the hard drive. If it were me, I would start completely over on the drive partitioning. Since you no longer have a working installation, there's nothing to lose. Use the PCLinuxOS partitioning tool instead.

After booting from the CD, go to PCLinuxOS Control Center > Local disks > Manager disk partitions. Towards the bottom of the window, there is a button named Clear all. Press that button to clear all previously saved partitions and the partition map in the MBR. After doing that, close all windows and reboot for the changes to take effect.


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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2011, 01:25:23 PM »
Hi everone!
We are back here...  ;)

Finally we got floppy drive :D There were some issues, so it was hard to get it working... But now its OK.

Firstly we`we updated bios to latest released version. Then we made a full HDD wipeout - removal of old partitions, complete reformat, cables check and cleaned.

But, it solved nothing...  :(
Original KDE or Gnome LiveCD installation still crashes ... Same problem as before... Our community livecd still works, but still only with lilo.

The main thing why we are trying to solve this is because of kernel updates.... frontosa is a medium beginner and with lilo he is not able to add new kernel entries to the booting (easily) ... Maybe it could solve to make a lilo package?
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2011, 02:36:00 PM »
Welcome back!

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But, it solved nothing...  Sad

That's weird!  ???

most of all don't understand why the same kernel (apparently at least, look like the same kernel) work for your remastered ISO, and doesn't work when the official ISO is used.  ???  Weird!  ???

I have read in previous posts that this DELL Optiplex doesn't have a CD/DVD drive.
What did you used for installation ? USB stick ? And, if yes, what tool did you used to prepare the USB stick ?
Additionally, it could be possible to test an installation using a CD/DVD drive ?

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2011, 01:29:31 PM »
Hi,
for installation was used flash disk, created via Unetbootin - simplest way for beginners.

I dont understand these issues as a advanced and xperienced user... Kernel in our ISO is same, without extra things or modules... I thing there may be a problem vith libparted... Who knows...

Trying a CD drive could be complicated, but we will try to get it also :D

But it is not main problem - it could be solved via our ISO, official doesnt work, who cares :)

So I`d like to ask for issue that is current. After install our live cd with 2.6.33 kernel and LILO installed (grub doesnt work) - is there any solution how to add a new kernel for example 2.6.38 or newer into lilo boot list? I think it could be done manually but, asking about simple, beginner aceptable howto :) Or script, or command :)

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2011, 01:42:44 PM »
Tried installation of OpenSuse 11.4 and it work out of box, with grub1... Strange...
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2011, 02:05:02 PM »
Hi,
for installation was used flash disk, created via Unetbootin - simplest way for beginners.

In PCLinuxOS there is one even better: PCLinuxOS-liveusb creator, you can find it in synaptic package manager.
Right now I have strong suspect about flash-disk partition format ...

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I dont understand these issues as a advanced and xperienced user... Kernel in our ISO is same, without extra things or modules...
Agreed, in fact I checked your community ISO about grub and kernel, that's the reason I defined the things 'weird'.  :)
That's also the reason why I ask about installation method ...   ;)

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I thing there may be a problem vith libparted... Who knows...
If you know that libparted is different in your community ISO ...

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Trying a CD drive could be complicated, but we will try to get it also :D
Try this if all others fails ... at least in one case I have seen BIOS incorrectly reporting drive mapping when a USB disk was attached ...

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But it is not main problem - it could be solved via our ISO, official doesnt work, who cares :)

So I`d like to ask for issue that is current. After install our live cd with 2.6.33 kernel and LILO installed (grub doesnt work) - is there any solution how to add a new kernel for example 2.6.38 or newer into lilo boot list? I think it could be done manually but, asking about simple, beginner aceptable howto :) Or script, or command :)

One thing is still not clear, or may be I have missed it, sorry about that ...: when you say that grub is failing, related to official ISO, you refer to booting from USB stick, or you had been able to perform the installation and grub fails upon reboot of installed system ?

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2011, 02:06:25 PM »
Tried installation of OpenSuse 11.4 and it work out of box, with grub1... Strange...

No, it's not strange, it's what is expected!  :)

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2011, 02:23:14 PM »
Tried installation of OpenSuse 11.4 and it work out of box, with grub1... Strange...

No, it's not strange, it's what is expected!  :)

Exactly.
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2011, 11:45:48 PM »
Hi,
I created a usb boot via live-usb creator
same error as before
OpenSuse 11.4 is ok
other distro too ok
problem has only PCLinuxOS and Mandriva
I do not know what to do
 :'(
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2011, 05:52:52 AM »
Hi,
I created a usb boot via live-usb creator
same error as before
OpenSuse 11.4 is ok
other distro too ok
problem has only PCLinuxOS and Mandriva
I do not know what to do
 :'(


if something fail, please report back the exact problem, we can't go search back on a thread that already contain 72+ posts ...
When you had the failure ? when booting from live-usb or at reboot after installation ?

EDIT: how many connectors have your video card ? if more than one did you try the other ?
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,92908.0.html

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2011, 06:22:25 AM »
I do not have ATI graphics
I have nvidia
installation of community CZ / SK livecd PCLinuxOS goes without any problem
Cz / Sk livecd after installation just goes to Lila
Grub boot loader after installing the kernel panic
Original livecd does not start installation, see links above
Perhaps it is a problem in PCLinuxOS
Other distribution of work in order
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