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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 04:07:00 AM »
@frontosa, @helium, @migelo,

It's clear that a problem exist, but as noticed before it look quite strange. What about to post some real info ?
i.e. lilo configuration and grub configuration, what filesystem type do you have used for '/' ?
what's the BIOS version of DELL Optiplex 320 ?

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 04:22:05 AM »
I have kernel 2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs
Installation is
http://www.linuxsoft.cz/pclinuxoscz-mirror/pclinuxos-2010.10-kde-cs-sk-2.iso



This is not an official PCLinuxOS release and as such we have no way of knowing what may, or may not, be broken within it. It's also 7 months old, so may not upgrade properly even if nothing is broken on the remaster.

The Dell hardware is old enough that all needed drivers should be included with the installed kernel, so the problem with grub has to be an improper installation, possibly from a bad d/l of the image or a bad burn, either by yourself or the person that made the remastered image.

The only way we would be able to help you would be for you to install from an official PCLinuxOS release image. You would have to run an md5sum check on the d/l image, and also the burned disk, to be sure the media you are installing from is bit perfect. As is, we have no way of knowing where the error comes from.

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 06:36:55 AM »
For the CZ / SK community installation I have two other pc and there is no problem. I think the problem is with Dell.

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 07:00:59 AM »
BIOS version 1.1.2

this is lilo configuration


# File generated by DrakX/drakboot
# WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file

default="linux"
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=menu
keytable=/boot/cz.klt
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
compact
prompt
nowarn
large-memory
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label="linux"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append="resume=UUID=e5cc6a8a-cbd9-4dd4-a80f-a186bf888025 splash=silent pnpacpi=off"
   vga=788
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label="linux-nonfb"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append="resume=UUID=e5cc6a8a-cbd9-4dd4-a80f-a186bf888025 pnpacpi=off"
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label="failsafe"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append="failsafe"
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs
   label="2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs.img
   append="resume=UUID=e5cc6a8a-cbd9-4dd4-a80f-a186bf888025 splash=silent pnpacpi=off"
   vga=788
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.6-pclos1.bfs
   label="2.6.38.6-pclos1.bfs"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.38.6-pclos1.bfs.img
   append="resume=UUID=e5cc6a8a-cbd9-4dd4-a80f-a186bf888025 splash=silent pnpacpi=off"
   vga=788
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37.4-pclos1.bfs
   label="2.6.37.4-pclos1.bfs"
   root="UUID=0ecce856-c507-4bda-be6c-fd8c79b51241"
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.37.4-pclos1.bfs.img
   append="resume=UUID=e5cc6a8a-cbd9-4dd4-a80f-a186bf888025 splash=silent pnpacpi=off"
   vga=788
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2011, 07:36:05 AM »
BIOS version 1.1.2


there has been several updates to your bios, listed here:
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http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/previousversions.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=PLX_PNT_320&releaseid=R224665&formatid=-1&deviceid=162&formatcnt=1&dateid=-1&releasetype=BIOS&servicetag=&typeid=-1&catid=-1&source=-1&libid=1&impid=-1&osl=en&vercnt=9&os=BIOSA&checkFormat=false
the latest 1.1.12 here:
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http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R224665&SystemID=PLX_PNT_320&servicetag=&os=BIOSA&osl=en&deviceid=162&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=9&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=0&libid=1&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=321436
note that one is marked as 'criticality: urgent 1.1.5)', another one refer to boot problem when a USB card is installed on the system, another one to memory issue, still another about microcode issue, and finally something related to the VGA ROM:
Quote
*****************************************************************************
System: OptiPlex 320
Version: 1.1.12
*****************************************************************************
1. Enhanced WOL support for add-in network card


*****************************************************************************
System: OptiPlex 320
Version: 1.1.11
*****************************************************************************
1. On N-Series Platforms, remove SLIC table and pointer to resolve OS bug with KMS activation.


System: OptiPlex 320
Version: 1.1.10
1.Enhanced Compatibility with 667MHz memory.
2.Fixed System can not boot from SATA hard drive when PCI USB Card is installed.


*****************************************************************************
System: OptiPlex 320
Version: 1.1.9
1. Update for Intel microcode
2. Update the code for Intel new CPU support
3. Update Chipset programming to improve signal strength
4. Update the onboard VGA ROM



and others ... I would say that a BIOS update may be however beneficial.

About lilo config, the only relevant thing I can see right now is the option pnpacpi=off, did you used the same option in grub installation ?
I would add vga=normal splash=verbose too.

Also, don't know what imply the flag "large-memory".

Did you try to boot from grub using safe mode ?

Of course, do not ignore old-polack suggestion about burning the ISO image at low speed, checking the md5sum, use an official image at least for testing so we can refer to a known system, installing grub on MBR and of course about updates: suggested iso is PClinuxOS 2010.12-KDE

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 08:13:33 AM »
Dell Optiplex 320, Intel Pentium Dual Core 3GHz, 2GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8400GS

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 01:20:54 PM »
Apparently that make and model does have issues with GRUB.  A search for "Dell Optiplex 320 grub issues" yields a ton of pages, spanning a number of distros.  Looking just at my first page I see Mepis, Narcoleptic Ninny, Fedora, Red Hat....  And the ones I opened all say the same thing, install lilo.  A little above my expertise level I am afraid, but this might put some of our more able people on a better path?
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 11:07:48 PM »
I do not mind using LILO, the problem is that I can update the kernel. lilo zavést.Možná it seem to have enough to update the lilo for the new kernel, but I do not know if it's possible. It is worth then reinstall the original distribution PCLinuxOS
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2011, 11:13:24 PM »
I do not mind using LILO, the problem is that I can update the kernel. lilo zavést.Možná it seem to have enough to update the lilo for the new kernel, but I do not know if it's possible. It is worth then reinstall the original distribution PCLinuxOS


As as pointed out, the first thing you should do is upgrade the BIOS to the newest version, to eliminate all the known issues with that hardware. Then do the PCLinuxOS installation.
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2011, 11:25:28 PM »
I found this on the Dell website. My problem is that Dell does not drive, so the upgrade will be a problem if it will not work from USB.


http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-desktops/2007-February/000195.html
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2011, 11:36:44 PM »
For the BIOS update disk creation, install biosdisk from Synaptic. I've used it on a Dell PC at home, and it works. For transferring the disk image to a USB device, use usb-imagewriter.

For easy configuration of lilo, both lilo and drakxtools-newt packages should be installed by default.

You should probably also install lilo-doc package.

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 11:54:11 PM »
the bios says it can not boot from usb
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 11:56:59 PM »
I found this on the Dell website. My problem is that Dell does not drive, so the upgrade will be a problem if it will not work from USB.

I'm a bit confused. Where are you trying to put the Dell BIOS flash update?

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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2011, 12:01:12 AM »
My Dell does not drive! i do install from usb
but bios can not read USB for the update
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Re: Problem installing
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2011, 12:13:10 AM »
i do install from usb but bios can not read USB for the update

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand. How did you install from a USB device if you can't boot from it? Did you install from an external USB CD drive?

Strike that. Does your computer have a floppy drive? Is the floppy drive working?

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