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Offline sydbod

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Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« on: May 03, 2011, 11:04:43 AM »
I would like to remaster a project with this version of PCLinuxOS.
There are some problems I have to sort out first.

Whenever a monitor of 1920x1080 resolution gets connected on a machine with an ATI video card in it the ATI FGLRX driver will go into overscan mode.
There appears to be no controll to adjust this and most importantly is there some way to stop this from happening in the ATI driver, and in maybe the Nvidia FGLRX driver also if it happens there?
This version of Minime also appears to have an old version of Nvidia FGLRX driver as it does not recognise a Nvidia GT430 on another of my machines.
Is there some way of including the later/latest Nvidia FGLRX friver (270.61) into this package?

Tragically I need the later FGLRX drivers available from within the livecd mode and some way to stop overscan happening to be able to use this promising OS package.

If there are currently no work arounds, then, are these problems being addressed for the next release of PCLinuxOS?

Thanks in advance for any replies. :)


EDIT: Ug ... sorry if this is in the wrong area. (Should have been in PCLinuxOS-Forums > Help > MiniMe/ZenMini/E17/Openbox) :(
« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 11:25:15 AM by sydbod »

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2011, 11:58:06 AM »
Update the OS and then do your own remaster using  mylivecd   containing the apps and drivers you need.

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2011, 12:05:46 PM »
Update the OS and then do your own remaster using  mylivecd   containing the apps and drivers you need.

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2011, 06:30:23 PM »
Update the OS and then do your own remaster using  mylivecd   containing the apps and drivers you need.

Thank you for the advice.
Appologies for being so anal about the exact details, but I just dont know my way around Linux well enough yet.

Assuming I take the  MiniMe CD and install it on a machine with a later Nvidia video card.
Then install the latest Nvidia FGLRX driver on that machine.
Then remaster with mylivecd onto another CD (disk 2).
Then install that other CD (disk 2) onto a machine with a later ATI video card.
Then intall the latest ATI FGLRX driver on this second machine.
Then remaster with mylivecd onto another CD (disk 3).
Is it correct that I will now have a remastered MiniMe CD (Disk 3) that has the latest FGLRX drivers now on it and that that CD (disk3) will work properly on ALL  machines that may have any type of early or late generation video card installed of either Nvidia or ATI? Is mylivecd script actually so clever that it manages to work in this complex and easy way?
(please let it be true)
« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 06:37:34 PM by sydbod »

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2011, 08:12:03 PM »
Update the OS and then do your own remaster using  mylivecd   containing the apps and drivers you need.


Thank you for the advice.
Appologies for being so anal about the exact details, but I just dont know my way around Linux well enough yet.

Assuming I take the  MiniMe CD and install it on a machine with a later Nvidia video card.
Then install the latest Nvidia FGLRX driver on that machine.
Then remaster with mylivecd onto another CD (disk 2).
Then install that other CD (disk 2) onto a machine with a later ATI video card.
Then intall the latest ATI FGLRX driver on this second machine.
Then remaster with mylivecd onto another CD (disk 3).
Is it correct that I will now have a remastered MiniMe CD (Disk 3) that has the latest FGLRX drivers now on it and that that CD (disk3) will work properly on ALL  machines that may have any type of early or late generation video card installed of either Nvidia or ATI? Is mylivecd script actually so clever that it manages to work in this complex and easy way?
(please let it be true)


Not quite. After installing, you first need to replace your installed /etc/apt/sources.list, as shown here;

http://tinyurl.com/4fcgj4z

When that is done, open Synaptic, then click Reload --> Mark All Upgrades --> Apply and then again Apply in the confirmation window. When done, the entire system will be upgraded, including all the proprietary drivers. If you want a remaster similar to the original, you need to use the root password root, and create a normal user named guest with the password guest. You will also have to install the draklive-install package, through Synaptic, as it gets deleted as part of the hard drive installation.

When you are done with all that, you can then use mylivecd to create your updated remaster. It will be larger than the original, so will probably need to be burned to a DVD disk, rather than a CD.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 08:17:03 PM by old-polack »
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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 08:24:47 PM »
Thank you old-polack,

You have made it very clear to understand.
That is EXACTLY what I needed to know. :)

Will give it a try tonight and see how things fall out.

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 10:49:23 PM »
In addition, and in assuming that the MiniMe LiveCD you are using is 2010.12, you might also want to update to the latest stable kernel.
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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 05:38:15 AM »
UGGG!!!! that was a bit of a disaster.

Took a spare machine from the junk room to test on.
Drake-Install gives no feedback during install.
The temptation is to hit the reset because one thinks the machine has locked up.

apt-sources-update.sh -w -s http://distro.ibiblio.org/pclinuxos/synaptic/sources.list
Kept telling me I did not have an active internet connection running on the machine.
Yet I could browse the internet on the browser.
Had to get another machine on the network to stream some random music to make sure the internet was running without dropping any data at the start of accessing the internet and then "apt-sources-update.sh" worked with no problems. (I probably have a crappy internet provider/connection)

Started updating with Synaptic. 305 updates ..... WOW, impressive.

Part way through the updates about 90% Synaptic did stop working.
Had to reset the machine and then Synaptic kept complaining about 6 broken links and multiple duplicate packages on the machines.
Tried to work around it and now have lost my desktop.

Obviously I still dont know enough to properly help myself .... but no prolems, time for a bit of reading.
Maybe another attempt tomorrow night on another machine as this one may be flaky (it is a possibility).
I can see this is going to be fun. :)
Thanks for all your help so far.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 05:41:36 AM by sydbod »

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 05:47:50 AM »
make sure you have all other partitions unmounted so they are excluded from the remaster

umount -a

will unmount all except the root and home partitions.

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 07:58:29 AM »
WooooHoooo!!!!!!!
Another machine, and a quiet time  (around midnight) on the internet and minime installed properly.
Followed the upgrade instructions as above and everything went fine also.
Thank you gentlemen.  ;D

Now to try to remaster and see what happens.
If that works, then update the kernel (hopefully dont break anything)Remaster a new disk and see if it works on a selection of different machines.
If it all works, then time to add my project material. :)

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 08:19:56 AM »
Things are looking good.

from root Konsol:
umount -a
mylivecd test.iso

And the CD is being created at this moment. It looks to be a slow process.

What is this about "run bleachbit and bleachbit-root to clean up and are ready to remaster"?

Is that utility in the distribution or does it get installed with Synaptic or what ... and how does one run it?

EDIT:test.iso was created in /home/guest folder. Size 542.4MiB.
"locate test.iso" does not find it .... strange. Had to use the search function in the File Manager.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 08:53:22 AM by sydbod »

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 09:20:47 AM »
Things are looking good.

from root Konsol:
umount -a
mylivecd test.iso

And the CD is being created at this moment. It looks to be a slow process.

What is this about "run bleachbit and bleachbit-root to clean up and are ready to remaster"?

Is that utility in the distribution or does it get installed with Synaptic or what ... and how does one run it?

EDIT:test.iso was created in /home/guest folder. Size 542.4MiB.
"locate test.iso" does not find it .... strange. Had to use the search function in the File Manager.

Bleachbit is available in the repository .....I doubt there is any benefit from using it on a fresh install .....

locate can only find what is in its database .......  try

updatedb

as root in a terminal before using locate

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2011, 09:40:34 AM »
"updatedb" thanks for that.

Well :( the new iso wont boot up.
early in the bootup procedure, just after "searching for the loop image:" being OK, the problem starts.

Mounting loop image on /initrd/loopfs: mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on initrd/loopfs failed: invalid argument.

Error: Unable to mount loop filesystem,
  Commands were:
  losetup /dev/loop0 initrd/cdrom/livecd.sqfs
  mount -r -t squashfs /dev/loop0 initrd/loopfs
  Please run mediacheck on livecd


I did run mediacheck and the media is fine.
I get the same error on all machines I tried the disk on.


Anyone have any insight on what is going on?
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 09:49:59 AM by sydbod »

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2011, 09:48:22 AM »
For creating interim ISOs, I suggest you use the mylivecd compression option      --gzip
This will work much faster, but create a larger ISO ......  which is not really a concern for an interim ISO.

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Re: Problems with "pclinuxos-minime-2010.12.iso"
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2011, 09:51:43 AM »
For creating interim ISOs, I suggest you use the mylivecd compression option      --gzip
This will work much faster, but create a larger ISO ......  which is not really a concern for an interim ISO.

mylivecd --help say that for kernel older than 2.6.37, only support -lzma compression, may be this is the reason because your iso won't boot.

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« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 09:54:02 AM by as »