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MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« on: April 09, 2011, 11:26:58 AM »
In MSEC I change the security level to "secure" and then the shutdown feature dissappears.
How can I shutdown the system?
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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 11:57:10 AM »
Hi,

Your system is now so secure that no one can shutdown it!  ;D

Probably your system now is set up to allow only root to shutdown, then log out and relogin as root to shutdown your system.
May be it could be appropriate to return to MSEC and revert back the changes about shutdown. isn't it ?

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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 12:47:21 AM »
Yep! that's exactly what I did.
I find it really stupid that You enable a higher security feature and you then can't turn off your computer....
Linux has to change these things.  :-\

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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 01:49:49 AM »
Yep! that's exactly what I did.
I find it really stupid that You enable a higher security feature and you then can't turn off your computer....
Linux has to change these things.  :-\

I do believe you should re-think that.

you enabled a security feature while acting as the administrator.

you failed to shut down as an ordinary user .......  which is what the administrator had apparently set

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        did you try shutting down as root?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2011, 05:12:51 AM by Just19 »

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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 01:51:47 AM »
Yep! that's exactly what I did.
I find it really stupid that You enable a higher security feature and you then can't turn off your computer....
Linux has to change these things.  :-\

As I know you can still enable HIGH secure level and allow shut down by modifying the default rules...


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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 04:57:52 AM »
well, sorry if i'm wrong  :'(

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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 12:54:21 PM »
Yep! that's exactly what I did.
I find it really stupid that You enable a higher security feature and you then can't turn off your computer....
Linux has to change these things.  :-\

Why, it was you that did not fully understand what it was that you were changing. To say it is stupid is non sense and and to say that Linux needs to change these things is utter bologna.   :(




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Re: MSEC:security and how to shutdown?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 05:41:50 AM »
You have to consider the uses these stock security levels are intended for. Higher security is for increasingly public use, such as web servers where space is let to the public. If you were the administrator of a public shared server you wouldn't want your customers to be able to log on and reboot it or shut it down, thus disrupting other customers' sites. You would want to reserve that power to yourself. That is what the setting you selected does. It is not intended for a desktop PC, but for a commercial web server, so it makes a greater distinction between what users and the administrator (root) are allowed to do.

Web servers are rarely shut down. Most desktops would be turned off when not in use, and therefore need to be easier to shut down.

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