Need help with capturing video from a JVC camcorder

[Archie]

Hi.

I have a fully updated KDE and I would like to transfer video clips from an old JVC GR-D290 Mini DV Camcorder into my computer so I can edit it with Kino. I thought it would be as simple as plugin the cables, fire up Kino and play the clip so it could be captured. Not the simplicity that I expected and I thought OK.

$ lsusb -v had a long list of descriptors and from what I can gather, it looked like everything is in order. Anyone wishing to take a look at the output of $ lsusb -v, I have saved it at (sorry!) http://www.4shared.com/file/BWo_HRSW/jvc.html

I opened drakconf (PCC/Configure My Computer) > Hardware > Browse and configure hardware. OK. It's listed under Webcam as:

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Identification
Vendor: ‎JVC
Description: ‎GR-D290
Media class: ‎Video|Video Control
Connection
Bus: ‎USB
Bus PCI #: ‎2
PCI device #: ‎7
Vendor ID: ‎0x04f1
Device ID: ‎0x000d
Misc
Module: ‎uvcvideo
Anyone who has done something similar, kindly share your knowledge. Or if you can assist me in setting up all the necessary stuff, I would greatly appreciate your kindness.

My purpose is to fulfil my word to jaydot. I haven't done videos for a long time and I am really rusty. 

[coffeetime]

Install dvgrab and try with Kdenlive:

- Capture from any source, including DV, AVCHD and other pro level capture formats
- Import and organise media files with folders
- Drag and drop media to the time line
- Clip preview and editing
- Render to a large number of formats using a wide variety of codecs
- Support for DV, HDV, AVCHD, H264, mpeg, avi and mov
- Support for uncompressed PCM, ac3, mp2, mp3, vorbis and wav
- Predefined export settings for different disc formats and websites
- Heaps of effects, transitions and filters for both video and audio
- Title creation tool
- DVD creation wizard, including basic menu support

[AS]

$ lsusb -v had a long list of descriptors and from what I can gather, it looked like everything is in order. Anyone wishing to take a look at the output of $ lsusb -v, I have saved it at (sorry!) http://www.4shared.com/file/BWo_HRSW/jvc.html

I opened drakconf (PCC/Configure My Computer) > Hardware > Browse and configure hardware. OK. It's listed under Webcam as:

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Identification
Vendor: ‎JVC
Description: ‎GR-D290
Media class: ‎Video|Video Control
Connection
Bus: ‎USB
Bus PCI #: ‎2
PCI device #: ‎7
Vendor ID: ‎0x04f1
Device ID: ‎0x000d
Misc
Module: ‎uvcvideo

Hi Archie,
I have seen also your other post http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,69752.msg731056.html#msg731056
at this time it's not clear to me if you are going to use the USB interface or the FIREWIRE (ieee1394) interface of your camcorder. You should really clarify this point.

AS

[Archie]

$ lsusb -v had a long list of descriptors and from what I can gather, it looked like everything is in order. Anyone wishing to take a look at the output of $ lsusb -v, I have saved it at (sorry!) http://www.4shared.com/file/BWo_HRSW/jvc.html

I opened drakconf (PCC/Configure My Computer) > Hardware > Browse and configure hardware. OK. It's listed under Webcam as:

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Identification
Vendor: ‎JVC
Description: ‎GR-D290
Media class: ‎Video|Video Control
Connection
Bus: ‎USB
Bus PCI #: ‎2
PCI device #: ‎7
Vendor ID: ‎0x04f1
Device ID: ‎0x000d
Misc
Module: ‎uvcvideo

Hi Archie,
I have seen also your other post http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,69752.msg731056.html#msg731056
at this time it's not clear to me if you are going to use the USB interface or the FIREWIRE (ieee1394) interface of your camcorder. You should really clarify this point.

AS

Hey AS and coffeetime,

Thank you for your replies. Either way is good with me. The problem or problems are neither the USB interface or the IEEE doesn't do much for me at this point. I have nothing to capture. I have also installed dvgrab and Kdenlive, which btw is more sophisticated than kino but I can manage that app, and also doesn't connect through the Firewire.

It should also be noted that in Kino, one of the errors was "... unable to read/write /dev/raw1394" so I think that is a good place than any to start.

Any ideas?

Archie

[AS]

Any ideas?

Hi,
see my answer here, (probably you missed it because it's on the second thread page):
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,69752.msg731099.html#msg731099

AS

[Archie]

I saw it and replied to it. Maybe we should stay on this thread? Thanks.

[coffeetime]

Check in /etc/modprobe.preload, if you have a line -- raw1394 ?

[Archie]

Hi coffeetime,

I have replied to AS on the other thread, which was already marked SOLVED so I asked AS to use this thread for my issue instead.

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[root@arevalo archie]# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
uas                     6703  0
usb_storage            35798  2
snd_usb_audio          72161  0
snd_usbmidi_lib        15847  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi            16051  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
autofs4                20525  2
af_packet              17053  0
ipv6                  268012  22
vboxnetadp              6778  0
vboxnetflt             19198  0
vboxdrv               173993  2 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
nouveau               511731  0
ttm                    46267  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper         25901  1 nouveau
drm                   146933  3 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit            4271  1 nouveau
nvidia               9238529  0
snd_hda_codec_idt      48610  1
uvcvideo               56383  0
snd_hda_intel          19295  1
videodev               57382  1 uvcvideo
v4l1_compat            13978  2 uvcvideo,videodev
snd_hda_codec          67332  2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep               5232  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
btusb                  10106  0
arc4                    1110  2
bluetooth              47757  1 btusb
snd_seq_dummy           1119  0
ecb                     1629  2
snd_seq_oss            25783  0
iwl3945                63756  0
snd_seq_midi_event      4728  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                43321  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          4525  4 snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
iwlcore                48906  1 iwl3945
snd_pcm_oss            34379  0
sr_mod                 14057  0
cdrom                  31582  1 sr_mod
i2c_i801                7143  0
snd_pcm                60719  4 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
mac80211              188274  2 iwl3945,iwlcore
cfg80211              121733  3 iwl3945,iwlcore,mac80211
sky2                   41110  0
snd_timer              16163  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          14611  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    45750  16 snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
shpchp                 23723  0
iTCO_wdt                9061  0
i2c_core               16725  7 nouveau,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,videodev,nvidia,i2c_i801
iTCO_vendor_support     1569  1 iTCO_wdt
soundcore               5149  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          6149  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
sg                     24223  0
pci_hotplug            22020  1 shpchp
binfmt_misc             6034  1
pcmcia                 33231  0
yenta_socket           19376  0
pcmcia_rsrc             9440  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            10297  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,pcmcia_rsrc
tifm_7xx1               3630  0
tifm_core               4004  1 tifm_7xx1
nvram                   4757  0
ext3                  113030  3
jbd                    40706  1 ext3
firewire_ohci          23513  0
firewire_sbp2          12251  0
firewire_core          44978  2 firewire_ohci,firewire_sbp2
crc_itu_t               1087  1 firewire_core
fuse                   57952  3
dm_mod                 58981  0
joydev                  8308  0
wacom                  26407  0
video                  10391  1 nouveau
sony_laptop            25047  0
rfkill                 13724  3 bluetooth,cfg80211,sony_laptop
evdev                   7652  17
thermal                 6673  0
button                  4037  1 nouveau
output                  1456  1 video
ac                      2499  0
battery                 8700  0
processor              23820  2
ide_generic              873  0 [permanent]
ide_core               81364  1 ide_generic
ata_piix               18323  0
ahci                   17757  4
libahci                16119  1 ahci
libata                154417  3 ata_piix,ahci,libahci
sd_mod                 32230  8
scsi_mod              153152  7 uas,usb_storage,sr_mod,sg,firewire_sbp2,libata,sd_mod
crc_t10dif              1088  1 sd_mod
ext4                  309877  1
jbd2                   60480  1 ext4
crc16                   1083  1 ext4
uhci_hcd               19304  0
ohci_hcd               19692  0
ehci_hcd               35163  0
usbhid                 33520  0
hid                    63454  1 usbhid
usbcore               121755  12 uas,usb_storage,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,uvcvideo,btusb,wacom,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,usbhid
[root@arevalo archie]# modprobe raw1394
FATAL: Module raw1394 not found.
[root@arevalo archie]# modprobe ieee1394
FATAL: Module ieee1394 not found.
As you can see, I have neither the modules raw1394 nor ieee1394 loaded and when modprobe these aren't found either.

Perhaps a change of kernel? Could it be that these modules weren't in the patch?

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[archie@arevalo ~]$ uname -r
2.6.37.1-pclos1.bfs


[coffeetime]

Perhaps a change of kernel? Could it be that these modules weren't in the patch?

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[archie@arevalo ~]$ uname -r
2.6.37.1-pclos1.bfs


Yep.
Try with 33.7-pclos6.bfs.

[coffeetime]

2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs

cat /etc/modprobe.preload
# /etc/modprobe.preload: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
# to be loaded at boot time, one per line.  Comments begin with
# a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
# this file is for module-init-tools (kernel 2.5 and above) ONLY
# for old kernel use /etc/modules
fuse
raw1394
sbp2
ohci1394
p4-clockmod
nvram
evdev

lsmod | grep ieee1394
ieee1394               69727  3 ohci1394,sbp2,raw1394

[AS]

I have replied to AS on the other thread, which was already marked SOLVED so I asked AS to use this thread for my issue instead.

Fully agree with tschommer and coffeetime suggestion: install kernel 2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs

AS

[Archie]

OK. We're getting somewhere.

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[archie@arevalo ~]$ uname -r && lsmod | grep 1394
2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfs
raw1394                16911  0
ohci1394               22696  0
ieee1394               69727  3 raw1394,ohci1394,sbp2
However, I am still unable to connect on Kdenlive and Kino reports No AV/C compliant cam connected or not switched on?

How else can I check whether the Firewire is good? I haven't used it for over a year and the last time, it was good but that was on my desktop now long gone. Just using the VAIO VGN FZ-25 for everything.

[AS]

However, I am still unable to connect on Kdenlive and Kino reports No AV/C compliant cam connected or not switched on?

as seen in other thread, there can be a permission problem: try ls -l /dev/raw1394
if you find someting like:

crw------- 1 root root 171, 0 Feb 26 10:44 /dev/raw1394

try: chmod 666 /dev/raw1394 and retry Kino and/or Kdenlive, without restarting the PC, chmod actually don't survive upon reboot.

AS

[Archie]

It's not the permission.

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[archie@arevalo ~]$ ls -l /dev/raw1394
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 171, 0 Feb 26 20:57 /dev/raw1394
What else could it be?

[AS]

Hi,

Try to look in Kino -> Edit -> Preferences -> IEEE1394 for correct device name. Additionally look like you can capture only when camcorder is reproducing video.
Try also modprobe dv1394, this lead to a new device named /dev/dv1394-0, test Kino using this second device and of course check
permissions of /dev/dv1394-0.

AS