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Offline ternor

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System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« on: February 23, 2011, 07:51:33 PM »
I finally removed k3b today after it had turned 5 DVD+RW disks into coasters.  After doing that, the system would not read any data DVD.  It did read an audio DVD.  After I re-installed k3b, the system is reading data DVDs again.

Is/are there some setting/s I can alter to bypass the requirement for k3b?

Thanks.

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 08:17:59 PM »
I finally removed k3b today after it had turned 5 DVD+RW disks into coasters. After doing that, the system would not read any data DVD.  It did read an audio DVD.  After I re-installed k3b, the system is reading data DVDs again.

Is/are there some setting/s I can alter to bypass the requirement for k3b?

Thanks.

How do you turn a DVD+RW into a coaster using K3B? I have ~400 of them, always burn with K3B, and haven't been able to do that trick yet.  ???
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 09:03:26 PM »
I don't know.  I used k3b as usual and it worked ok until one day kde couldn't read the disk, k3b wouldn't write to it and GnomeBaker couldn't format it.  After that happened to 5 disks, I gave up.

Since I know of no way to avoid that happening, I've stopped using k3b.
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 09:06:43 PM »
audio dvd?   such thing exist?!?!?

maybe is a dvd full of mp3 files?

did you created a multisession dvd on that dvd+rw?

multisession discs always backfire, it is a matter of time

reinstall k3b and see if the disc works again, maybe you removed a tool like udf or something similar required to read the contents, sorry for not being more specific but i haven't used k3b in a long time and i leave it installed always, it is more a pain to remove than a benefit to not have it installled
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 09:39:56 PM »
DVD-RWs are rewritables. K3B can write on top of data already stored in it. You must mean DVD-Rs.

Did it also occur to you that GnomeBaker couldn't erase data on it and K3B couldn't write into it and KDE couldn't read it that the problems might be the DVDs? Were they handled and stored properly? Have you tried another computer to access the DVDs?
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 09:47:42 PM »
I don't know.  I used k3b as usual and it worked ok until one day kde couldn't read the disk, k3b wouldn't write to it and GnomeBaker couldn't format it.  After that happened to 5 disks, I gave up.

Since I know of no way to avoid that happening, I've stopped using k3b.

DVD+RW are formatted once, and thereafter simply overwritten. Reformatting can ruinthe disk, and multiple re formats will certainly do so in short order. Normal overwriting can be done ~1000 times, during the disks normal life span.

How old is the burner drive? What brand is the burner? Have you tried different brand disks? Have you tried cleaning the laser lenses? This should be done after each 10 hours of burning time.
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 03:53:48 AM »
Ok, thanks, the burner drive may need cleaning.  I'll enquire about that.  The problem started last year.  This brand of disks has always been ok previously.  It seems that it is simpler to leave k3b installed but I shan't use it again.

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 04:40:55 AM »
Ok, thanks, the burner drive may need cleaning.
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Jut thought about hardware problem.

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 04:52:47 AM »
I finally removed k3b today after it had turned 5 DVD+RW disks into coasters.  After doing that, the system would not read any data DVD.  It did read an audio DVD.  After I re-installed k3b, the system is reading data DVDs again.

Is/are there some setting/s I can alter to bypass the requirement for k3b?

Thanks.

You have not said what you mean by a "DATA DVD"

Are you using 'true' RW with these disks so that dragging and dropping files onto an icon (for instance) causes the file to be written to the DVD?

What version of UDF are you using if so?

Have you all the needed packages installed for working with such DVDs?

This is an area where Linux is badly lacking for GUI apps which make it easy for the user to work with such disks.
Apparently all the needed functionality is built in to Linux .....  but it is very difficult for a user to access that functionality.
There was an app in KDE3 which helped a lot, but this has not been ported, that I am aware, to KDE4. It is badly missed.

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 01:47:04 PM »
audio dvd?   such thing exist?!?!?

maybe is a dvd full of mp3 files?

did you created a multisession dvd on that dvd+rw?

multisession discs always backfire, it is a matter of time

reinstall k3b and see if the disc works again, maybe you removed a tool like udf or something similar required to read the contents, sorry for not being more specific but i haven't used k3b in a long time and i leave it installed always, it is more a pain to remove than a benefit to not have it installled

Actually, yes!

If you've ever looked at the structure of a DVD, you may have noticed a VIDEO_TS folder (where the video data is), and a (usually empty) AUDIO_TS folder.  This structure (and the DVD spec) allow for high-fidelity (96K, I believe) audio to be stored for playback on DVDs...

I don't it ever took off, though...

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 04:29:40 PM »
sorry, it was a joke, i knew that such beast existed but vanished because it was a waste of time and space ;D
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 05:57:39 PM »
I have often wondered if I could produce an Audio DVD .....  would be great for those multiple CD box sets to put on one media.

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 06:01:53 PM »
the idea of that technology wasn't put more songs, was put more quality on the song but also forcing you to buy a new audio system with a dvd drive replacing the cd-rom drive
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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 06:03:05 PM »
the idea of that technology wasn't put more songs, was put more quality on the song but also forcing you to buy a new audio system with a dvd drive replacing the cd-rom drive

So could it be done ......  multiple albums on an Audio DVD?

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Re: System will not read data dvd unless k3b is installed
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
afik no

the idea of such format was put 20 or similar amount of songs but with more quality

audio cds are pretty much abandoned now, audio dvds is the same

mp3 is what you have now

more on audio dvd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
« Last Edit: February 24, 2011, 06:21:53 PM by Titus T6us »
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