Yes I have sound, but as i stated in my first post and in the bug report, under E17, I no longer have a way to control volume. Everything works fine under xfce, in alsa or pulse, but no longer in E17 desktop. It used to work before last update, but i no longer can get a volume control on a shelf or the desktop. It acts like the gadget manager is messed up, don't know other than what I found in my last post. With webcam connected it appears to be not using my sound driver completely but using the webcam as default. Can't get it to stay on the hda setting.