i've been for a look in there and kmix is nowhere to be found. i also tried putting kmix on the panel and then looking to see if i could transfer it, but no dice. i didn't find anything useful in applets, widgets or whatever. i'm stumped again. kde4 has lost some useful functionallity i had become accustomed to while not yet learning its new features and options. *grump* it's annoying sometimes being so lazy.