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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2011, 11:06:40 AM »
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If you are going to use KDE anyway, I would do it the way T6 suggested.

I used to do just that but then I noticed I don't need all the apps, found other programs useful and even better.

I'm posting from an LXDE install where I thought to install KDE4 later but I haven't had the need  PCManFM  is good enough, installed Foxit Reader for .PDF and use Deluge for Torrents, I browse my images from Firefox using Cooliris and Play music in Clementine. For Video VLC is superb and I can run all the apps I want/need.  And I haven't started to try e17 here  :)

I hope my new work laptop will be approved by February (a Dell XPS, or Lenovo or Toshiba have not decided yet  ;D ) by then I will have to decide which DE install. It will probably be one of the official remasters, LXDE and e17 comes to mind, not because they are light (which is cool) but because they are usable.

I think KDE4 soon will just be a bad memory.
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2011, 08:05:15 PM »
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If you are going to use KDE anyway, I would do it the way T6 suggested.

I used to do just that but then I noticed I don't need all the apps, found other programs useful and even better.

I'm posting from an LXDE install where I thought to install KDE4 later but I haven't had the need  PCManFM  is good enough, installed Foxit Reader for .PDF and use Deluge for Torrents, I browse my images from Firefox using Cooliris and Play music in Clementine. For Video VLC is superb and I can run all the apps I want/need.  And I haven't started to try e17 here  :)

I hope my new work laptop will be approved by February (a Dell XPS, or Lenovo or Toshiba have not decided yet  ;D ) by then I will have to decide which DE install. It will probably be one of the official remasters, LXDE and e17 comes to mind, not because they are light (which is cool) but because they are usable.

I think KDE4 soon will just be a bad memory.

Crow, I too have found no real need for KDE. I still run it on one of my boxes here by itself but my primary box runs LXDE all by it's lonesome. I haven't found a thing I want to do that I can't get it to do. In fact, I have two other boxes that are running it exclusively.  ;D


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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2011, 08:20:34 PM »
the main idea of use kde4 is not that you can do things that are not possible in other desktop environments available

it is a simple choice any person do, to have something that helps him/her to make any task required possible,more simple in less time

kde4, gnome, e17, xfce and lxde are very similar, all of them capable, with native tools and apps and also capable of run apps from other desktop environments without problems

other more simple desktop environments sometimes doesn't have some tools or can't run some apps and that is why you usually search for a more complete desktop environment, right now that one is kde4 and gnome
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2011, 08:30:39 PM »
T6, you reiterated perfectly and with more explanation, exactly what I was trying to say.  ;)


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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2011, 09:39:42 PM »
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other more simple desktop environments sometimes doesn't have some tools or can't run some apps and that is why you usually search for a more complete desktop environment, right now that one is kde4 and gnome

In the actual state of things I think that is a myth, just ask the members of the PCLinuxOS e17 Club  or the fanboys of the PCLOS LXDE   ;)  count me in both   ;D

I find that the truth is quite the opposite, try to run an old game in KDE4 using Wine and if doesn't have the needed resolution you will have to run it windowed, in LXDE fills the screen automatically (a feature in KDE4?  ;)  maybe). PCLinuxOS is a KDE centric distro and that means that from time to time an update in the main distro borks something in a remaster but usually it gets fixed soon.

Don't get me wrong I'm glad Linux has evolved (whatever that means) to be attractive for the main stream and probably the price to pay is bloated DE's  but you can do whatever you want using lighter alternatives.

BTW is confusing to read this two ideas

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the main idea of use kde4 is not that you can do things that are not possible in other desktop environments available

it is a simple choice any person do, to have something that helps him/her to make any task required possible,more simple in less time

kde4, gnome, e17, xfce and lxde are very similar, all of them capable, with native tools and apps and also capable of run apps from other desktop environments without problems

other more simple desktop environments sometimes doesn't have some tools or can't run some apps and that is why you usually search for a more complete desktop environment, right now that one is kde4 and gnome
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 10:30:05 AM by Crow »
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2011, 11:57:57 PM »
I agree, Crow.  There is but nothing I can do in KDE which I can't do in Phoenix or Gnome, which happen to be the 2 des' I dabble in.
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 12:04:37 AM »
I have not helped, but lets try to remember that this is not the sandbox and stay on topic. Just so we don't get a kick by the Mods. LOL.


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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 05:07:22 AM »
I have not helped, but lets try to remember that this is not the sandbox and stay on topic. Just so we don't get a kick by the Mods. LOL.

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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 10:12:07 AM »
I have not helped, but lets try to remember that this is not the sandbox and stay on topic. Just so we don't get a kick by the Mods. LOL.

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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
"In the actual state of things I think that is a myth"

i have seen it in action, in e17 and in xfce i had problems running certain apps, weird crashes on firefox, no audio on a audio player(can't remember which one)

"BTW is confusing to read this two ideas"

there is only one idea, use the most capable desktop to do your daily tasks

i personally recommend over the existing des kde4 and gnome, sorry if i wasn't clear enough

i also said that other desktops can work perfectly well when compared to heavier desktop environments, i didn't described gnome and kde4 as this but this is the general perception of them after the last year, not agree but you can't go against the flow all the time

sorry if i lost it but i can't see youcantoo replying to the original question, after all there is people using his repo and he should tell us something
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2011, 05:23:38 PM »
Found the answer:

http://kde3.pclosusers.com/

"We are sorry, but PCLOSusers.com is currently down due to excessive bandwidth usage. "


I have been in the hospital since Jan 2nd and am currently in rehab for the next two weeks.   I have had very limited or no internet access. Currently the hosting provider I have been with for the past 5 years shut down pclosusers due to excessive bandwidth issues.  I received a bill for over $2,000. They are claiming that I exceeded over 6 terabyte of bandwidth in the month of December.  I am disputing this. Until the issue is resolved the repository will be down. In the next week I will be looking into a temporary provider for the repository.
I am truly sorry if this has caused anyone issues.

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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2011, 05:38:06 PM »
Evidently there are still many KDE3 users, but 6 TB of downloaded programs seemed excessive.

Sorry to hear about your health problems YouCanToo I hope you are better soon.
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2011, 06:13:47 PM »
Get well soon! :)
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2011, 06:18:25 PM »
+1

sorry to hear you are having problems with that

yes 6 TB for this repo can't be that popular in one moth, maybe two months but one is impossible

get well soon!
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Re: YouCanToo Repo?
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2011, 08:40:16 PM »
I've been following this thread, well, for since it started.  I have 3/4 gig memory, 1gig processor, it's an old machine.  Tried KDE 4.5 2010 Full Monty (loved it), LXDE (good but couldn't get one outside ap to run [I know no outside ap's, it's a password manager called Dragon, and I gotta have it]). 

Well I popped in Gnome, updated it, solved a problem in Skype (I use a c260 logitech, plus headphones - need a tweak) and fell in love with Gnome version.  Found out that like KDE 3.5 I had to delete pulseaudio to get Skype to work with my card & usb camera.

The short of this long story is for me the 3.5 was the bee's knees.  But, I finally upgraded to another GUI, and it's Gnome.  At least now I won't have to worry about the 3.5 KDE repro.  So if you were in my shoes, you might like to try Gnome.  I added just a few KDE I needed (well just Open Office).  It is working out good for me.  And, I hope this post helps out another.  Have a great day! ;D