Author Topic: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)  (Read 1476 times)

Offline zapjb

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Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)

My setups: laptop (PCLOS/Vista64 home prem) owned 2 1/2yrs & netbook (PCLOS/XP32 home) owned 4mos.

I've noticed something very weird. Thought it was just a 1 off deal on my laptop. But after owning my netbook I can't ignore it.

On both I spend like 98% of actual usage on the PCLOS partition.

But over time my windows partitions need a LOT of maintenance unlike PCLOS. Update everything from Drivers, AV, other programs, WU & cleaning & defraging. Whenever I want to waste hours & hours & trance myself out. Windows is good for that.

Ok this is where it gets weird. My PCLOS partitions are always up to date. It's too easy. But I sometimes notice my PCLOS installs not as responsive & sluggish. In comparison to itself (PCLOS) not of course to XP/Vista. I update & reboot. Maybe PCLOS is acting a little better.

But after after I spend hours fixing & maintaning XP/Vista. Drivers, AV, other programs, WU & cleaning & defraging.

My PCLOS partitions are much, much snappier & responsive. What's that all about??? I know I'm not imagining this.

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Micro$oft's reach is longer than you think, and you have abandoned the corporate ship 98% of the time.   :)   And you thought Bill Gates spent all that free time lying on the beach?

A gentleman's stab in the dark-- do you have Windows directories set to automount, where Linux is incorporating them as part of its file system?  In that case Linux is tasked with accessing a fragmented drive, weeding through temp files, etc.

The guy who might be able to offer the deeper answer is Old-Polack, maybe you can PM him if another experienced user or admin doesn't come along with some tips.

I know what you mean about hours with the windows installations, isn't it fun??  I have a quadruple boot machine with XP, Vista & W7 and PCLOS.  I'm a Windows troubleshooter for a living, so need to be able to reproduce stuff on the screen if I get the occasional call for phone support.  Like you, I'm in PCLOS 90% of the time with the notable exception of Netflix streaming.

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Micro$oft's reach is longer than you think, and you have abandoned the corporate ship 98% of the time.   :)   And you thought Bill Gates spent all that free time lying on the beach?

A gentleman's stab in the dark-- do you have Windows directories set to automount, where Linux is incorporating them as part of its file system?  In that case Linux is tasked with accessing a fragmented drive, weeding through temp files, etc.

The guy who might be able to offer the deeper answer is Old-Polack, maybe you can PM him if another experienced user or admin doesn't come along with some tips.

I know what you mean about hours with the windows installations, isn't it fun??  I have a quadruple boot machine with XP, Vista & W7 and PCLOS.  I'm a Windows troubleshooter for a living, so need to be able to reproduce stuff on the screen if I get the occasional call for phone support.  Like you, I'm in PCLOS 90% of the time with the notable exception of Netflix streaming.

I think you pretty much nailed it. If you don't mount the Windows file systems in Linux, they should have no effect on the Linux system.
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Micro$oft's reach is longer than you think, and you have abandoned the corporate ship 98% of the time.   :)   And you thought Bill Gates spent all that free time lying on the beach?

A gentleman's stab in the dark-- do you have Windows directories set to automount, where Linux is incorporating them as part of its file system?  In that case Linux is tasked with accessing a fragmented drive, weeding through temp files, etc.

The guy who might be able to offer the deeper answer is Old-Polack, maybe you can PM him if another experienced user or admin doesn't come along with some tips.

I know what you mean about hours with the windows installations, isn't it fun??  I have a quadruple boot machine with XP, Vista & W7 and PCLOS.  I'm a Windows troubleshooter for a living, so need to be able to reproduce stuff on the screen if I get the occasional call for phone support.  Like you, I'm in PCLOS 90% of the time with the notable exception of Netflix streaming.

I think you pretty much nailed it. If you don't mount the Windows file systems in Linux, they should have no effect on the Linux system.

Cool, then I'd like to request a promotion... out of the "Junior Member" ranks   ;D

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Cool, then I'd like to request a promotion... out of the "Junior Member" ranks   ;D

You just got promoted with that post!

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How do I stop the Windows partition from automounting? And this won't have an effect on my Grub boot menu. Right?

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How do I stop the Windows partition from automounting? And this won't have an effect on my Grub boot menu. Right?

Let's see what your /etc/fstab looks like.

[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/fstab

Post your results.
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Thanks OP.

[root@localhost xxx]# cat /etc/fstab
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=361d0ebf-5930-4d70-9374-b899bb161503 / ext3 defaults 1 1
# Entry for /dev/sda7 :
UUID=3cf6d0f9-b7df-42e6-b126-6d95af04383c /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda6 :
UUID=de7557eb-59c2-478f-812d-41d77da8e666 swap swap defaults 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
[root@localhost xxx]#

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Thanks OP.

[root@localhost xxx]# cat /etc/fstab
# Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=361d0ebf-5930-4d70-9374-b899bb161503 / ext3 defaults 1 1
# Entry for /dev/sda7 :
UUID=3cf6d0f9-b7df-42e6-b126-6d95af04383c /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
# Entry for /dev/sda6 :
UUID=de7557eb-59c2-478f-812d-41d77da8e666 swap swap defaults 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
[root@localhost xxx]#


Well, it's not auto mounting off of that... it's not listed at all. What do you get with;

[root@localhost ~]# mount |grep sd
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[root@localhost xxx]# mount |grep sd
/dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,commit=0)
/dev/sda7 on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=0)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
/dev/sda2 on /media/Windows Vista_1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
/dev/sda1 on /media/Recovery type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[root@localhost xxx]#

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Re: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 11:17:23 PM »
[root@localhost xxx]# mount |grep sd
/dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,commit=0)
/dev/sda7 on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=0)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
/dev/sda2 on /media/Windows Vista_1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
/dev/sda1 on /media/Recovery type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)

[root@localhost xxx]#


OK, they are mounted by HAL in /media. Are they, in fact, auto mounting, or are you clicking them in Dolphin, and mounting them that way?
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Re: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2011, 11:24:16 PM »
I'm not sure. Don't know anything about HAL. But in Dolphin the 2 windows partitions are listed. I'm assuming they're mounted. Because when I rt click on them. I get the option to Unmount, Add Entry or Hide Entry.

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Re: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 11:27:49 PM »
I'm not sure. Don't know anything about HAL. But in Dolphin the 2 windows partitions are listed. I'm assuming they're mounted. Because when I rt click on them. I get the option to Unmount, Add Entry or Hide Entry.

Try a reboot, then check again with the right click. Does it offer to mount, or unmount?
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Re: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 11:32:51 PM »
After a reboot & a rt click. Dolphin still offers Unmount.

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Re: Not your ordinary dual-boot question. (PCLOS kde fully updated & windows)
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 12:02:47 AM »
After a reboot & a rt click. Dolphin still offers Unmount.


Open PCC --> Local disks --> Manage disk partitions, click on the partition, then click the Toggle to expert mode button. Click the Options button. You should see this.



Note the choices I've selected, and their explanations. I would suggest something similar, so you can mount the partitions as your normal user, if you actually need to access them, but they will not auto mount otherwise.
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