I think I have Openbox installed...

[Taco.22]

I find it's a bit like writing web pages.  I find it quicker and easier to raw code than mess about with a web editor.  Much easier to debug as well.  Besides, sometimes you can't quite trust an editor - I like to be in control!

[Yankee]

I find it's a bit like writing web pages.  I find it quicker and easier to raw code than mess about with a web editor.  Much easier to debug as well.  Besides, sometimes you can't quite trust an editor - I like to be in control!

Hi there,

Well I hope I don't have to write too much code.   I need a jumbo app launch editor
that would update the req'd code when a change or addition is entered to the menu.
But it's probably easy enough to copy and paste some formats and add or change
some exec locations.   I'll check it out someday.  At least it's there.


Patrick013

[Taco.22]

Cut and paste and changing bits is a good way to go.  You don't have to try and reinvent the wheel all the time.  Just make sure you adhere to Rule No.1 when editing files - always make a copy first.  And don't ask!! 

[melodie]

I hope obmenu can change main menu entries, have not tried it yet.
Sometimes the computer puts things in office instead of internet, etc.
or just leaves an item out completely.  Have to try it someday but this
OpenBox Bonsai I installed is going to stay very small for awhile.

Patrick01ou3

Hi,

You can even get it smaller, by removing all the x11-driver-* that you don't need. ie here, I will remove theses and gain 5681 kb:

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x11-driver-input-acecad sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-aiptek sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-calcomp sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-citron sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-digitaledge sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-dmc sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-dynapro sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-elo2300 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-elographics sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-evtouch sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-fpit sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-hyperpen sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-jamstudio sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-joystick sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-magellan sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-magictouch sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-microtouch sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-mutouch sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-palmax sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-penmount sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-spaceorb sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-summa sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-tek4957 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input-ur98 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-ati sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-geode sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-glint sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-mach64 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-mga sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-neomagic sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-nv sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-openchrome sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-r128 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-radeonhd sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-s3 sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-s3virge sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-savage sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-sis sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-sisimedia sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-sisusb sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-v4l sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-video-vesa sera désinstallé ainsi que ses fichiers de configuration
x11-driver-input sera désinstallé
I keep fbdev, mouse, keyboard, touchpad, and vga addtionnally to my video driver, and also the drivers for virtualbox as I use it currently.

In Bonsai, you can study what was installed, by opening the Synaptic menu "File > History" (not sure now what the exact name is in English, it's the entry that has no icon). I have left all the history of Synaptic since the first boot to X, when Synaptic was installed. It allows to see what packages have been installed at same time as one given package (as the packages you remove don't always pull away the ones it has been installed with).

Then once studied, you can erase all the history as well, to gain space. (Synaptic > menu categories > preferences > files > suppress history ; or as root "rm -f /root/.synaptic/log/*").

[melodie]

PS: I trust the editor geany, this is why I installed it to the Openbox versions. I think other editors can be trusted too, but not always the device sitting in front of it.

and doing a backup of a file before editing is always a good idea. But if you forget, there are chances  in PCLinuxOS that you will find a copy under /etc/skel to save you.

[Taco.22]

Hi,

PS: I trust the editor geany, this is why I installed it to the Openbox versions. I think other editors can be trusted too, but not always the device sitting in front of it.

Darn, I knew when I was typing it that it was going to be read wrong!!  What I meant was a WISIWYG style of editor, not your text editor of choice where you can actually see the nuts and bolts.  And I must agree about geany - I have spent a bit of time with kwrite and gedit, but geany is definitely growing on me.

And you might not be so wrong about the device, either!

 

[Yankee]

You can even get it smaller, by removing all the x11-driver-* that you don't need. ie here, I will remove theses and gain 5681 kb:

Hi,

And thanks for the response.  This is going to be my PCLSystemRescueFlashDrive.  I may need a video
driver if I plug it into some other machine someday.   Nice to have such a tiny Linux here to do so.   Only
1.1 gb installed, leaving plenty of room on 16 gb (14.9 gb really) for system backup of one partition.

Added fsarchiver only leaving 13.7 gb to store the archive(s).   Should be able to archive one 20gb Linux
OS partition (with MBR) with enough headroom to do so on this flash drive.   Other data partitions I'll archive
with FileRoller  or something to a bigger portable hard drive separately.   

Looks very solid to do a whole system as well.   As a casual Linux user I should be able to do this.

Merci Beaucoup !


Patrick013

p.s. had to change the time zone, Are you in Paris ?

[melodie]

Merci Beaucoup !

Patrick013

p.s. had to change the time zone, Are you in Paris ?

I am not close to Paris, but in that timezone, right. What timezone are you in ?
Happy you appreciate it. For a more universal system rescue use, you may need even more drivers (there is no non free package installed there).

[Yankee]

Merci Beaucoup !

Patrick013

p.s. had to change the time zone, Are you in Paris ?

I am not close to Paris, but in that timezone, right. What timezone are you in ?
Happy you appreciate it. For a more universal system rescue use, you may need even more drivers (there is no non free package installed there).

I'm in northern Illinois USA, home of cold and snow this time of year. 
I've heard Linux was very popular in Europe, and the Russian government
is going to require all software to be OpenSource within five years.

Oh well,

Regards,

Patrick013