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argedion

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Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« on: January 03, 2011, 04:40:51 AM »
I downloaded the lastest Live CD 2010.12 and I absolutely love it however when I click shutdown it starts the process then I get this message:

Init: Nothing left to do in this level

Then it just stays there I have tried allowing it to do its thing however it doesn't do anything.

Here are my comp specs
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• AMD Turion(TM) II Dual-Core Mobile Processor N550 (2.6GHz, 2MB L2 Cache)
• ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4250 Graphics with 128MB Display Cache Memory [HDMI, VGA]
• 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• FREE Upgrade to 500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 4.5 hours of battery life +++
• 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Display (1366x768)
• SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
• HP TrueVision Webcam and Digital Microphone
• Wireless 802.11b/g/n Card (Antheros AR9285)
• Standard Keyboard


Anyways the only way to shut it down is by holding the power key. Is there a way to fix this? I wanted to install the distro however because I dont want to risk damage to the hard drive I need it to safely shutdown first.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 06:13:22 AM »
It looks like the program does not see the CD at the end of the session (AHCI/IDE compatibillity driver conflict ?). When installed on HDD the problem should be gone.
If you have at least 2G (you do) of RAM you can use the LiveCD boot option Copy to RAM and check if you have a proper shutdown. In this case the commands/scripts are all read from RAM, not the LiveCD.
As last resort you have the possibillity to use the (beautifull Linux/Unix) emergency shutdown/restart without possible HDD distortion, REISUB. Hold down Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen and push slowly one by one R E I S U B. To remember:
Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring (RSEIUB) little different sequence, but also working. Google for details ;)
This unlocks your keyboard, clean kills programs and flushes HDD cache from mem to disk before rebooting.

You can also put the ISO on an USB stick with the program UNetbootin (Windows and/or Linux) where you have to put fromusb at the end of the append line(s) in syslinux.cfg as in:
Code: [Select]
default menu.c32
prompt 0
menu title PCLinuxOS 2010.12 Gnome
timeout 100

label unetbootindefault
menu label Default
kernel /ubnkern
append initrd=/ubninit livecd=livecd root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=silent fromusb

label ubnentry0
menu label LiveCD
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=silent fromusb

label ubnentry1
menu label LiveCD - No Boot Splash
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=verbose fromusb

label ubnentry2
menu label Video safe mode - VESA
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=silent vesa fromusb

label ubnentry3
menu label Safe boot
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd  root=/dev/rd/3 acpi=off vga=normal keyb=us vmalloc=256M noapic nolapic nopinit vesa fromusb

label ubnentry4
menu label Console
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd 3  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=silent fromusb

label ubnentry5
menu label Copy to RAM
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd copy2ram  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=verbose

label ubnentry6
menu label Media Check
kernel /isolinux/vmlinuz
append initrd=/isolinux/initrd.gz livecd=livecd md5sum  root=/dev/rd/3 apci=on vga=788 keyb=us vmalloc=256M splash=verbose

Now you can boot from USB (much faster then CD)

Happy PCLos-ing
Ed
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 06:23:02 AM by DeBaas »

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 06:27:03 AM »
I see that it seems to be an HP laptop, I had this same issue with mine. After you install to hard drive, you need to go into PCC control panel and click on "Boot" and the "APCI" & "ACPI" settings to see which one fixes it. I will fire up my laptop later and check my settings to see how I have them set and post back. Hope this helps.
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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 08:00:59 AM »
Sorry I'm a bone head *L* I do not burn cd's with distros I use unetbootin to create a USB so this was not an actual cd. I don't see the need to waste money on CD's when I can test it on usb. My apologies. I totally was not thinking about the actual drive I used. I do appreciate the feed back and look forward to seeing what i need to do in PCC control panel. Again thanks a bunch and i'll keep in tune.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 08:08:22 AM »
fromusb is your friend ;) on USB

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 08:08:31 AM »
Sorry I'm a bone head *L* I do not burn cd's with distros I use unetbootin to create a USB so this was not an actual cd. I don't see the need to waste money on CD's when I can test it on usb. My apologies. I totally was not thinking about the actual drive I used. I do appreciate the feed back and look forward to seeing what i need to do in PCC control panel. Again thanks a bunch and i'll keep in tune.

Unetbootin does not create a correct config for PCLOS to boot from.

Add the boot code

fromusb

to the config boot stanza and all should be well.

Else if you have a second USB stick you can generate a fresh bootable USB stick from the running one .....  by using the   PCLinuxOS-liveusb creator utility built into PCLOS ISOs, or available from the repository.

The PCLOS utility allows you to place the bootable OS on any partition of the device thus allowing any extra space to be used for whatever suits you.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 05:00:33 PM »
have added the fromusb line to the syslinux.conf file to all the lines and it still will not shutdown appropriately from the USB. I have to use the CTRL+ALT+PRINTSCREEN+R,E,I,S,U,B in order to get a shutdown. This is a bit tasking *L* So I will try to maybe create a usb with the PCLOS one and see if that does any better. Before I do I have a few questions. Will it save the live environment just like I have it set up? or will it just give me the basic live environment i already have on the USB? I want to test it out for a little to make sure everything is going to work ok? I want to check my backup script file that uses 7zip and rsync. I see they are both included :) I also want to check out my media and make sure music, movies, DVD's, and CD's are going to work as expected. (I know I have to add the codecs) I would like to create a live "USB" the way I'm going to be using the OS.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 06:08:52 PM »
Yes.
You need to boot using the Persistence boot option each time.

If at any time to revert to the standard boot option then you will get the original live ISO without any changes.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 01:29:50 AM »
Maybe for once you can try the LiveCD burned on rewritable ? (No disk waste) instead of the USB.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 02:55:31 AM »
Maybe for once you can try the LiveCD burned on rewritable ? (No disk waste) instead of the USB.
Yeah *L* I'll have to get one. I have some CDr's I just prefer usb cause its easier and faster. I had to put mandriva on a CD and it takes over fifteen minutes for it to load. (It also has problems *L*) Anyways I was able to make a iso with the mylivecd program its 1.4 gig so i either will have to place it on USB or i'll have to place it on a DVD.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 03:46:08 AM »
Maybe for once you can try the LiveCD burned on rewritable ? (No disk waste) instead of the USB.

PCLOS doesn't do persistence on RW optical media that I am aware of, so to achieve the persistence required it seems that a USB is the way to go.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 11:33:02 AM »
"...Anyways the only way to shut it down is by holding the power key."

I have had to do the same thing.  Are there any issues re: doing this?  No problem just removing the cd and shutting down when in memory?

In running the live gnome cd, I get to a dead end where have a few options like 'language' and some gibberish which I have no idea what.

Other live cds just work. Give you a desktop and browser to try.  This is definately not for beginners like me. I restarted and tried 'help' but no relevant info there and no option to shut down.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 12:18:30 PM »
"...Anyways the only way to shut it down is by holding the power key."

I have had to do the same thing.  Are there any issues re: doing this?  No problem just removing the cd and shutting down when in memory?

In running the live gnome cd, I get to a dead end where have a few options like 'language' and some gibberish which I have no idea what.

Other live cds just work. Give you a desktop and browser to try.  This is definately not for beginners like me. I restarted and tried 'help' but no relevant info there and no option to shut down.

Shutdown - Your computer bios isn't honoring the acpi call from the Linux kernel to shutoff.

 I don't what what gibberish you are talking about in your post after that but there are beginners using PCLinuxOS without issue. Not every computer though is good enough to use PCLinuxOS.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 12:53:36 PM »
"...Anyways the only way to shut it down is by holding the power key."

I have had to do the same thing.  Are there any issues re: doing this?  No problem just removing the cd and shutting down when in memory?

In running the live gnome cd, I get to a dead end where have a few options like 'language' and some gibberish which I have no idea what.

Other live cds just work. Give you a desktop and browser to try.  This is definately not for beginners like me. I restarted and tried 'help' but no relevant info there and no option to shut down.

Shutdown - Your computer bios isn't honoring the acpi call from the Linux kernel to shutoff.

 I don't what what gibberish you are talking about in your post after that but there are beginners using PCLinuxOS without issue. Not every computer though is good enough to use PCLinuxOS.


I have a P 4 3ghz 1gb ram; ibm thinkcentre.

Still would like to know: Is there any problem with pushing the powerswitch to shut down when using a live cd?  ...Since everything is in memory.

Sometimes you are at a point where it gives you no shutdown option.

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Re: Can't Shutdown Live CD (Gnome)
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 01:06:45 PM »
If running live and no drives mounted ---  important ---  then Ctrl Alt  Prt Scr, B  will reboot.  That is hold Ctrl & Alt pressed, then press Prt Scr and 'B' in succession.