Is it possible to roll back to an earlier version of Gnome?

[Dragynn]

Several things not functioning in the new Zen-mini, that worked well in the 2010.07 version. Just wondering if it were possible to roll back to that version from here, hate to have to wipe and re-install the older iso.

[T6]

no, this is a rolling distro, the packages you mention doesn't exist anymore

i never could make a mini version to work, i always use normal versions

something recommended to do is make a checksum of the iso and burn it at slow speed to discard errors in the files

[Dragynn]

Thanks T6, good advice. I did do all you recommended for all the installs here though, and most everything works great, but I still have the digital camera issue and have seen other posts on the gnome forum about Gnome Viewer no longer automatically recognizing cameras anymore, so it's not isolated to my install. And I can't burn iso's currently, which was no problem in the earlier version of Zen. And I know the PCLOS system is solid, so it has to be issues with the current gnome version, Texstar posted that there were some gnome issues while they were working on the new Zen iso, so that leads me to believe that is the culprit.

And it may be a very small thing, but I really like the Zen main menu icon, and after updates it seems i'm stuck with the PC icon and I can't even find where the Zen button went

[T6]

:S

too many problems

better use kde4 

[parnote]

i never could make a mini version to work, i always use normal versions

Dunno about you, but I've installed Phoenix Mini on 3 different machines and it's been nothing short of amazing.

parnote

[T6]

thinking that i know more now that before of pclinux, i decided to install minime kde4 last year(or this year), everything failed, everything!

and i knew what to install and what not 

quickly downloaded pclinux full version and installed it, still using it on desktop

no idea what happened, probably it was just that i don't know enough or was expecting less configuration, no idea

[Was_Just19]

:S

too many problems

better use kde4 

+1


 

[Texstar]

The minis are for advanced users who know what they need to install to make it all work. If you don't know what to install to make it all work then better to stay with a full version. I just plugged my Olympus camera in on my Gnome desktop and I have it opened in Nautilus with access to all of my pictures.

[Dragynn]

Ahh, so something missing in Zen 2010.10 that was present in 2010.07? Must be. And an iso tool that was also present and not in the new version?

The new version is smaller, and yet has a couple more programs. Some gstreamer plugins for sure were missing on the new one that were present in the old one.

Perhaps a simple list of packages would help, any way to make that easy? There are a couple of programs out there for comparing the differences between large files, might make it easy.

Burning iso's is such a great native linux feature, I can't imagine why it would be left out of the new iso, and the ability to recognize a digital camera sure seems like it could be considered a must-have part of the infrastructure.

[Dragynn]

:S

too many problems

better use kde4 

+1


 

I just made your day didn't I? 

I has persistence fanboy, i'll figger it out myself if I has to

[T6]

The minis are for advanced users who know what they need to install to make it all work. If you don't know what to install to make it all work then better to stay with a full version. I just plugged my Olympus camera in on my Gnome desktop and I have it opened in Nautilus with access to all of my pictures.

 

"Burning iso's is such a great native linux feature, I can't imagine why it would be left out of the new iso, and the ability to recognize a digital camera sure seems like it could be considered a must-have part of the infrastructure"

my netbook doesn't have burner, burn isos is not for everybody this days and alot has to be removed to make a mini version of gnome and kde

this is why mini versions are for "advanced users who know what they need to install to make it all work"  

"I has persistence fanboy, i'll figger it out myself if I has to"

it was just a suggestion, nothing offensive and i like gnome too

i have it installed on my desktop but i never downloaded a gnome iso, i always start from kde and then add more and since kde4 has been so solid for me on netbook and desktop i always recommend it but gnome is also good, just a matter of what you prefer to use

lately i use lots of gnome apps and if gnome 3 ends as i expect it, i might jump to gnome permanently, who knows?

[Dragynn]

The minis are for advanced users who know what they need to install to make it all work. If you don't know what to install to make it all work then better to stay with a full version. I just plugged my Olympus camera in on my Gnome desktop and I have it opened in Nautilus with access to all of my pictures.

it was just a suggestion, nothing offensive and i like gnome too

Oh I know you meant well T6, I was just funnin' with Just19, I give him a hard time now and then about KDE, it's all good.

It's a tough job deciding what is and isn't suitable for a "mini" I reckon, I have my own ideas and i'm sure everyone else does too.

And now my Zen main menu icon just decided to re-appear on it's own I guess , so there's one down and a couple to go. I just mostly wanted to know if it was possible to roll back to a previous version of your chosen DE, didn't really expect this thread to turn into a discussion of whether or not noobs like me were too...well...noobish I guess would be the nicer way to put it, to be using mini's in the first place.

A list of packages included in each version, would help solve this, even dummies like me can compare a pair of lists. I guess I can try to accomplish that, can't seem to copy/paste the list of installed packages on mine, so I guess I can write them down, all 1200, lol

[Old-Polack]

Dragynn:

Open a terminal as your normal user and enter the following. (you can copy/paste this to your terminal if you wish)

[<you>@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa |sort > ~/installed-packages.txt           <Enter>

Look in your home directory for the installed-packages.txt file. There's your list, complete with version numbers.

[Dragynn]

Dragynn:

Open a terminal as your normal user and enter the following. (you can copy/paste this to your terminal if you wish)

[<you>@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa |sort > ~/installed-packages.txt           <Enter>

Look in your home directory for the installed-packages.txt file. There's your list, complete with version numbers.

You rock Old-Polack! I'll do it and see if I can figure this out, if I do, i'll post the results. Thanks!

[Dragynn]

Solved one problem. cdrkit was installed on Zen 2010.07 but not on 2010.10, installing it has now enabled the right-click context menu choice labeled "Write to Disc" to actually write something to the disk.

Now tackling the camera issue.

*edit* wow, fixed the camera issue too. Sure seems a cheap fix at less than one megabyte to enable these two important basic functions.