[SOLVED] (E17) - How may I edit the E17 main menu, please?

[smurfslover]

Alas; fortune seems to have lessened its favour towards my efforts today.  To begin, I had attempted to change the main menu icon appearance to that of a more colourful theme, in order to better match my iBar icons; yet I was completely unable to do so, and also rather surprised by the appearance of not one but two 'modules/start' entries in the pertinent settings dialogue:
http://i.imgur.com/WMiZH.png

Settings Panel / Appearance / Icon theme

This is puzzling me because it does not seem normal; although this is a relatively-fresh new install that I have not yet attempted to customise very much - while on another (different) machine, I encountered no such difficulty and was able to change the mainmenu icon theme with complete success.

If you're running the light version there's no main menu icon, didn't want users to open their apps through a small icon while you only have to clock the desktop to bring up the menu.

The attempt to install ecomorph+ecomp was also unsuccessful; apparently, for whatever reason they do not seem to be working well with the i915 video chip in my EeePCs.  The Shelf Stacking manipulations with ecomorph enabled were unsuccessful too, with the Systray gadget still disappearing as soon as the Shelf is raised.  Furthermore, when switching desktops the drop-shadows surrounding the GKrellM instance running on desktop 0,0 were then visible upon all, until ecomorph was disabled.

Main menu/settings/modules and disable the dropshadow module ecomorph has it's own shadows
Try the shelve stacking with another team might be related to that, for more themes search synaptic for 'Agust' you'll find two packages with e17 themes for pclinuxos.

Two other problems also became apparent today.  First, I noticed that despite repeatedly setting the CPUfreq gadget to the 'Maximum Speed' settings for both 'Policy' and 'Behaviour', the speed is displayed as 900MHz only initially - as soon as any application is opened, it drops to 675MHz and does not budge from that mark, no matter how many times I attempt to reset it.  Secondly, I also noticed that my previous efforts at localisation had apparently met with failure too, for the window 'Maximise' function is still being displayed as "Maximize" instead.  I have tried both methods as stated within pinoc's addlocale_Enlightenment_Info.txt file, yet the condition persists regardless.

Cpufreq module works for me, no idea yet what might be causing your problem.
e17 translations are very incomplete. With the dutch community we're currently working on translations ourself.
We'll soon publish a howto so other people can follow our example for their language if they want to.

[vc]

Alas; fortune seems to have lessened its favour towards my efforts today.  To begin, I had attempted to change the main menu icon appearance to that of a more colourful theme, in order to better match my iBar icons; yet I was completely unable to do so, and also rather surprised by the appearance of not one but two 'modules/start' entries in the pertinent settings dialogue:
http://i.imgur.com/WMiZH.png

Settings Panel / Appearance / Icon theme

But that changes only the iBar icons, though; the main menu icon is unchanged - that's why I was using the Settings>Theme>Advanced method, as depicted in the screencap.

If you're running the light version there's no main menu icon, didn't want users to open their apps through a small icon while you only have to clock the desktop to bring up the menu.

"Light version"?  I see only one E17 release available for download, though... or; are you referring to a Minime base install with E17 being installed subsequently, then?  If that would be the case, then how would I get the cool 'sunrise' bootsplash back?

Main menu/settings/modules and disable the dropshadow module ecomorph has it's own shadows

Oh.

Try the shelve stacking with another team might be related to that, for more themes search synaptic for 'Agust' you'll find two packages with e17 themes for pclinuxos.

I did install those from the beginning, actually - and have the 'A-Japan-S1' theme applied at the moment:

http://i.imgur.com/80bmm.png

Which theme are you using with your shelf stacking success, may I ask?

Cpufreq module works for me, no idea yet what might be causing your problem.

I've no idea either, unfortunately.  It didn't work at all on this machine 'out-of-the-box', despite the liveCD passing its self-check successfully - it only became functional when I opened a root terminal and ran modprobe p4-clockmod, so I attempted to place an entry for same in /etc/modprobe.preload.d (unsuccessfully, it would seem?).

Incidentally; if you examine the GKrellM instance in the screencap above you'll see a sudden drop in CPU activity, from 98% to 65% - that occurred when I ran modprobe -r p4-clockmod a few minutes ago.  Very puzzling.

At this point, I'm wondering if I should grab another Eee from the shelf and attempt this install from the beginning, yet again?

[smurfslover]

The main menu button is defined by the e17 theme as it is an e17 gadget  (module)
You can use the buttons from other themes in the advanced section of the e17 theme setup.

There are 2 pclinuxos-enlightenment isos on the mirrors
pclinuxos-enlightenment-2010.10.iso which uses kdebase and mostly qt based applications
pclinuxos-enlightenment-light-2010.11.iso which has no kde and qt stuff but light gtk based applications.

I'm currently using the e17club theme, the last one Agust made.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,64509.msg690631.html#msg690631

About the cpufreq module: add p4-clockmod to /etc/modprobe.preload to have it autoloaded at boot.

[vc]

The main menu button is defined by the e17 theme as it is an e17 gadget  (module)
You can use the buttons from other themes in the advanced section of the e17 theme setup.

Yes, that is what I was attempting; I could see the other theme icons in the Preview window and Assign them to modules/start - but when I then clicked on Apply, they wouldn't.  Additionally, as I recorded in the previous screencap, there were two 'modules/start' entries - yet neither are functional, it seems.

There are 2 pclinuxos-enlightenment isos on the mirrors
pclinuxos-enlightenment-2010.10.iso which uses kdebase and mostly qt based applications
pclinuxos-enlightenment-light-2010.11.iso which has no kde and qt stuff but light gtk based applications.

Sorry; I really had not noticed that, previously - it was the 2010.10 'Full' E17 version that I'd installed.  I'm downloading your 'Light' version now, thanks.

I'm currently using the e17club theme, the last one Agust made.

Alright - I'll await the 'Light' version installation first, and then give it a shot.

About the cpufreq module: add p4-clockmod to /etc/modprobe.preload to have it autoloaded at boot.

That was what I did; however, it doesn't seem to have been successful at all, unfortunately.  Should I be using a different module for this machine, perhaps?

[smurfslover]

Theme details are working in my e17-light install.
The 2 start modules are signs of corrupted configs. Happens with updates because e17 is still pre alpha software.

Theme e17-club with original start button.


Theme e17-club with other start button.

[vc]

That is beautiful, smurfslover!  What is that dock-like bar at the bottom?  I noticed similar on your 'Light' release also; it is intriguing (although I cannot afford the screenspace for such, on this machine.).

However, I have decided to stay with the 2010.10 'Full' E17 release for two major reasons:  one, I do wish very much to retain the new E17 'sunrise' bootsplash effect, and two, I do need a number of KDE applications (and I also wish to retain KDE as an alternative desktop, for possible maintenance purposes.).

After much experimentation, I am at last approaching my goal.  Although I was successful with installing and enabling Ecomorph, it still has not resolved the shelf+systray Stacking difficulty; additionally, as I was also unable to find any way to make the systray background invisible as well, I have since decided to abandon that direction for this moment (due to a deadline-imposed time constraint.).

My primary remaining 'style-related' issue is the Places gadget, which is frustrating me to no end!  This screencap depicts it as I wish it to appear:

http://i.imgur.com/VXV9Y.png

Alas; following a logout and subsequent login, its positioning fails to return to the previous, and instead shifts as so:

http://i.imgur.com/HKeKF.png

Basically, I would wish it to appear only below the Clock gadget, and expand only downwards, as additional devices are attached.

Your suggestion to place it within its own dedicated Shelf has indeed allowed me to restrict its appearance exclusively to one desktop; however, it also poses some additional problems.  If I set its Position to the upper right, the Places gadget then covers the Clock gadget; accordingly, I have now placed the Clock gadget within its own separate upper-right Shelf and have set the positioning of the Places gadget shelf to plain right instead.

The Places gadget and its corresponding Shelf must both then be made auto-resizable; else that shelf will cover the main bottom Shelf and the rightmost-gadgets within that bottom Shelf then become completely inaccessible.  I wish so much that Enlightenment could have a means of setting absolute sizes and placements!

Another interesting problem I noticed again concerns the Clock gadget and its corresponding Shelf, which is also set to appear only on the first desktop - yet, observe what remains on the other desktops, regardless:

http://i.imgur.com/kQU9q.png

Argh!  Should I have any hair remaining upon my head after this experience, I wonder?

[vc]

Theme details are working in my e17-light install.
The 2 start modules are signs of corrupted configs. Happens with updates because e17 is still pre alpha software.

Sorry - I forgot to mention that I did find a way around that... by first unloading the Start module, then changing the remaining module/start theme settings, and finally re-installing the Start menu gadget into the bottom Shelf again I was at last able to set the desired icon for it successfully.  The two entries still remain, but now they both agree at least - and, the menu icon stands out more clearly now, which was of course the real objective all along.

Also, the CPUfreq gadget seems to have settled down somewhat following the complete removal (in Synaptic) of the eee-control package (which has never seemed to function properly on my older EeePC 4G and 701 models, anyway.).  It's still not quite perfect yet; however, I am hoping that if I reboot into the KDE4 environment I may perhaps be able to change some of the power-control settings in there as well, and possibly thereby finally iron out its erratic behaviour altogether?