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Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« on: November 24, 2010, 04:41:37 PM »
When in a console in Zen 2009 updated, I have noticed this:

1. As root, I often get the message "can't find /home/mbz/.gvfs access refused" (in danish: Adgang nægtet)
2. Quite often the system does not shut down entirely but stay put on a black screen with the cursor in top left corner
3. I often get the message "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: <danish error message here = can not open shared objecfile, no such file">

anyone know how to get rid of this, i.e. does the 2010 have these issues as well?

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 04:59:55 PM »
Not even once in 2010.10 on mine, and I now have two desktops, one laptop, and one USB install of it. In fact it's almost annoying how stable it is, i'm trying to learn more about troubleshooting and bug fixes, but apparently I picked the wrong distro to do that with :D

Only issue i've had is with recognizing my digital camera, still trying to work that out, and even that's fixed if I run Shotwell, but i'm a stubborn ol coot, and I want it recognized a little different way, like 2010.07 did without any front-ends installed.
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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 05:00:20 PM »
Hi,

I still get rid of the gvfs messages with an udev rule in which I name "99-fuse.rules".

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$ ls -l /etc/udev/rules.d/99-fuse.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 54 oct.   4 20:21 /etc/udev/rules.d/99-fuse.rules


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$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/99-fuse.rules
KERNEL=="fuse", MODE="0755",OWNER="root",GROUP="fuse"

For the power problem, on what machine is that ? Laptop ? Desktop ? Have you tried an option "acpi=force" in the kernel command line ? I had blue screens as shutdown endings in my Openbox machine, a pair of months ago. XD

I got rid of them with that option. (I still have it, and the problem didn't reappear).

I can't help for the 3 as I don't use gnome. I suggest you try to search what package "libgnomebreakpad" can belong to ?




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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 05:57:43 PM »
Thanks Mélodie,

it appear I got the fuse rule, but the permissions were set to 666 - I try 755 instead.

Also good idea to try the kernel option - I'll give it a go.

Have looked for gnomebreakpad but could not find anything - I'll dig some more :-)

thanks,

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 02:04:07 AM »
Hi,

I was meaning about searching the web. :-)
Here is your libgnomebread.so:

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=172556

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I fixed the libgnomebreakpad.so on my Fedora 8 x86 system when I added
the file "/etc/ld.so.conf.d/gtk-2.0.conf" with the line:

/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules

and ran ldconfig.

Seems the modules is there from bug-buddy, but the load path wasn't set.


Do we have bug-buddy ?
Quote
$ apt-cache search bug-buddy
bug-buddy - Utility to ease the reporting of bugs within the GNOME Desktop Environment



It seems that we do.

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 02:46:11 AM »
Hi,

I was meaning about searching the web. :-)
Here is your libgnomebread.so:

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=172556

Quote
I fixed the libgnomebreakpad.so on my Fedora 8 x86 system when I added
the file "/etc/ld.so.conf.d/gtk-2.0.conf" with the line:

/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules

and ran ldconfig.

Seems the modules is there from bug-buddy, but the load path wasn't set.


Do we have bug-buddy ?
Quote
$ apt-cache search bug-buddy
bug-buddy - Utility to ease the reporting of bugs within the GNOME Desktop Environment



It seems that we do.

Regards,
Mélodie




Thanks Mélodie, this seems to have done the trick,

the 'fix' seems backwards, we install a program to -not- send debug messages :-)

Looks like some digging is needed to remove the initial and apparently unneeded debug messages,

thanks again :-)

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 07:13:38 AM »
When in a console in Zen 2009 updated, I have noticed this:

1. As root, I often get the message "can't find /home/mbz/.gvfs access refused" (in danish: Adgang nægtet)
2. Quite often the system does not shut down entirely but stay put on a black screen with the cursor in top left corner
3. I often get the message "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: <danish error message here = can not open shared objecfile, no such file">

anyone know how to get rid of this, i.e. does the 2010 have these issues as well?

cheers,
MBantz

Issue 1 solved (alter permissions in fuse rule)
Issue 2 still active, happens on two laptops of same type btw.
Issue 3 solved (by installing debug-killer-app)

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 08:04:32 AM »
Issue 2 still active, happens on two laptops of same type btw.

Hi,

What kernel do you have on them machines ? Could you test on only one of the 2, and don't touch the other until it's fixed on one : tell us what kernel there is, and change version : if you have bfs, take non bfs and reverse.

Could you list what is active or not active at boot among the services related to power ?

Do you have laptop-tools-mode installed and running ?

After, some logs could be useful : just after a reboot following immediatly an unclean shutdown : a full dmesg, and also the 800 last lines from /var/log/messages, like this:

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 09:34:33 AM »
Thanks a bunch Mélodie, great suggestions!

I use the BFS scheduler, I try another kernel, as for the other info:


chkconfig:
acpid             0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:on
alsa              0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
apmd              0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
apmiser           0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
atd               0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
avahi-daemon      0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
avahi-dnsconfd    0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:off   5:on   6:off   7:off
cpufreq           0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
crond             0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
dm                0:off   1:off   2:on   3:off   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:on
haldaemon         0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:on
ip6tables         0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
iptables          0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
irqbalance        0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
kheader           0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:off   5:on   6:off   7:off
laptop-mode       0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
mandi             0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
messagebus        0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:on
msec              0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
mysqld            0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
netconsole        0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
netfs             0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
network           0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
network-auth      0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
network-up        0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:off   5:on   6:off   7:off
nfs-common        0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
nfs-server        0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
ntpd              0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
numlock           0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
partmon           0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
portreserve       0:off   1:off   2:on   3:off   4:on   5:off   6:off   7:off
pppoe             0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
pptp              0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
resolvconf        0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
rpcbind           0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
sound             0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
sshd              0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
syslog            0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:on
udev-post         0:off   1:on   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
ultrabayd         0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
uuidd             0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:off   5:on   6:off   7:off
vboxadd-timesync   0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
vmware            0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:off   5:on   6:off   7:off
wlan              0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off   7:off
xfs               0:off   1:off   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off
xinetd            0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off   7:off

xinetd baserede tjenester:
   rsync:            off
   sshd-xinetd:      off

uname-a:
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.33.5-pclos1.bfs #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 30 02:37:14 CDT 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux




Laptopmode is active in runlevel 2,3,4 and 5

Checking back with a dmesg dump if it still won't stop properly,

thanks,
MBantz

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 09:55:34 AM »
Hi,

The processes else than thoses related to power may not necessary in your post. (And what about putting quote or code tags around ?)

Here is what I have:
Quote
acpid             0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:marche   4:marche   5:marche   6:arrêt    7:marche

apmd              0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:arrêt    4:arrêt    5:arrêt    6:arrêt    7:arrêt
apmiser           0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:arrêt    

laptop-mode       0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:marche   3:marche   

as kernel: "2.6.33.7-pclos6"  // non bfs

You have "2.6.33.5-pclos1.bfs" : I think you really ought to switch to the 2.6.33.7-pclos6 bfs or not bfs, doesn't matter. This might fix your issue.


This is not related to power, but I notice you don't have the service "autofs" : don't you need it ? (a startup script that launches the automounter)

You have avahi running and avahi-dns too, I don't.

Bye the way, is your Zen up to date ?

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2010, 11:02:54 AM »
Hi,

The processes else than thoses related to power may not necessary in your post. (And what about putting quote or code tags around ?)

Here is what I have:
Quote
acpid             0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:marche   4:marche   5:marche   6:arrêt    7:marche

apmd              0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:arrêt    4:arrêt    5:arrêt    6:arrêt    7:arrêt
apmiser           0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:arrêt    3:arrêt    

laptop-mode       0:arrêt    1:arrêt    2:marche   3:marche   

as kernel: "2.6.33.7-pclos6"  // non bfs

You have "2.6.33.5-pclos1.bfs" : I think you really ought to switch to the 2.6.33.7-pclos6 bfs or not bfs, doesn't matter. This might fix your issue.


This is not related to power, but I notice you don't have the service "autofs" : don't you need it ? (a startup script that launches the automounter)

You have avahi running and avahi-dns too, I don't.

Bye the way, is your Zen up to date ?



Hi,

oh, I did put code tags around, the teletype ones!

The entire list is normally optimal when debugging - that is why I didn't shorten it.

Things mount fine her - so it appear that I don't need autofs - could perhaps be a builtin feature of Gnome. What avahi and avahi-dns does I'm not sure - should I remove them?

And yes, my Zen is fully up-to-date :-)

The next logical step here is to update the kernel - stay tuned,

cheers,
MBantz

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Re: Three issues in Zen hard to get rid of
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2010, 11:48:54 AM »
What avahi and avahi-dns does I'm not sure - should I remove them?

And yes, my Zen is fully up-to-date :-)

The next logical step here is to update the kernel - stay tuned,

cheers,
MBantz

avahi makes some applications communicate together, such as when you need to have a printer on a local network (there is a stuff named "zeroconf" in the story). avahi-dns : don't know. Maybe a search on the web will tell you what it does and then you will know if you need it or not.

I don't even have this one.

For your new kernel behavior, I will stay tuned. :)

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