Author Topic: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network  (Read 2437 times)

Offline muungwana

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2010, 10:13:24 AM »

You can check if you can reconfigure your router and tell it not to respond to ping.

As you have seen in this thread, some people thing router firewall is adequate and others think it is not and each computer within the local area network need its own software based firewall. Which side you will be on depends on you.

FIrewalls opens and closes ports and you will have to be more specific on what network resource you want other computers on your network to have access to. You have to be specific on what program for example doesnt work correctly when the firewall is up for people to know which port need to be open
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2010, 10:14:17 AM »
you could do a port scan from your linux station to another win machine residing on your home network.

it would reveal their exact status and would point to your defaults for the share, in case additional protocols not required, like netbios, but you said youd use samba...

http://www.samba.org/cifs/docs/what-is-smb.html

Offline Fargo

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2010, 10:26:42 AM »
I'll have to check for some downloads for my router to see if I can set it up differently.

I just realized I did the test on my Windows machine with my windows firewall on.  So even that firewall allows pings.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2010, 10:32:02 AM »
I'll have to check for some downloads for my router to see if I can set it up differently.

I just realized I did the test on my Windows machine with my windows firewall on.  So even that firewall allows pings.

If you have a router and it has a firewall, then no traffic reached your windows computer, It all got stopped by the router and the router is the one that responded to the ping
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2010, 10:40:55 AM »
Some of the settings discussed on my Netgear router:

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http://linuxcounter.net/cert/433721.png

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2010, 02:05:41 PM »
what would be point of the picture (netgear)?

if this is all you have on the firewall/filtering/stealth, than you should go for something better ;)

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2010, 02:07:14 PM »
what would be point of the picture (netgear)?

if this is all you have on the firewall/filtering/stealth, than you should go for something better ;)

lol - that's not what zenmap says!

Anyway, the image was merely intended to show some of the security options on a commonplace router. (I have many others, BTW.) And muungwana already put this in perspective:
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As you have seen in this thread, some people think router firewall is adequate and others think it is not and each computer within the local area network needs its own software based firewall. Which side you will be on depends on you.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2010, 02:12:20 PM by ElCuervo »
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2010, 03:04:59 PM »
what would be point of the picture (netgear)?

if this is all you have on the firewall/filtering/stealth, than you should go for something better ;)

lol - that's not what zenmap says!

Anyway, the image was merely intended to show some of the security options on a commonplace router. (I have many others, BTW.) And muungwana already put this in perspective:
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As you have seen in this thread, some people think router firewall is adequate and others think it is not and each computer within the local area network needs its own software based firewall. Which side you will be on depends on you.

I couldn't find Zenmap in the repos.  Is this the same as nmap?  OR are you installing this from somewhere else?

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2010, 03:16:56 PM »
thats great, but my point is that you have zero customisation perspective on that

http://www.cablerant.com/resources/manuals/thomson/TWG850.pdf

check page 32

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2010, 07:38:17 AM »
I couldn't find Zenmap in the repos.  Is this the same as nmap?  OR are you installing this from somewhere else?
nmap-frontend in the repository is actually zenmap. Also, you may want to take a look at the excellent network monitoring tool Wireshark, also in the repo. Both are good learning tools, too, although they are a bit advanced.

And... install from somewhere else? Me? Never! ;D
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2010, 09:44:48 PM »

Do your path to your shares have empty spaces in them? Make sure they dont.

I missed this previously and it cost me much time.  I thought I had everything working because I could create folders and re-label files and even copy and paste files.  But I later found out I couldn't open files.  I've spend hours trying to figure out why I couldn't open files across my network.  So I reread this thread.  I changed my file path to something without a space and all is well....  I think.  Thanks for the tip.  Sorry I didn't catch it the first time


EDIT:  For clarity and future reference to other users.  It wasn't a file path but the name I gave my computer that had a space in it.  So the lesson is no spaces.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2010, 09:47:20 PM by Fargo »

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network (SOLVED)
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2010, 10:17:57 AM »
http://74.54.219.50/~lxgator/gnome/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3004&start=0&sid=5e7cd3065164f06f05ec89ae8c4e1489

 have a look, and see if anything here helps.


Thats a good writeup.  There are a lot of good writeups out there.  I wish that someone could put them all together is a searchable file and then make them a part of the standard PCLOS install as a help file.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 10:36:57 AM by Fargo »

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2010, 05:08:46 PM »
I don't think it will fit on the live CD but a copy of the thread is now on my system just for the weblinks.
Gathering it all up for a file to be kept in the repo would be of more value (with a good set of keywords).
I am fairly new to linux and am getting to the bottom of my networking troubles with the help here however it would have saved me time if it had been there 8)