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Offline Fargo

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I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« on: October 13, 2010, 12:57:15 PM »
OK I've been really enjoying how smothly things are going for me as I setup my wifes PCLOS 2010 system.  BUt I can't seem to find the computer on my network.  I am trying to share the home directory but I can't find it on either my WinXP machine or my PCLOS 2007 machine.  How do I set it up to make it visible on the network.  I can view the other computers from the machine but I can't find that PC from my other systems.  I've tried setting it up through the Control Center and I may have set it up as a server.  BUt I still can't find it.  Please help.  I'm sure its something simple I am over looking.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 01:22:25 PM »
If you haven't already, go to PCC and set up your PCLinuxOS box as a samba server - PCC>Network Sharing>Share drives... with Windows (SMB) systems. Add some shares, and make sure that both the WinXP box and the PCLOS box have the same workgroup name.

Wait about 20 minutes. You may not really need to reboot, but I have repeatedly found that my Windows boxes take quite some time to establish a connection, and rebooting the Windows box seems to help it along in that process.

BTW, if you haven't updated that system yet, there is a recent samba update.
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 01:34:27 PM »
If you haven't already, go to PCC and set up your PCLinuxOS box as a samba server - PCC>Network Sharing>Share drives... with Windows (SMB) systems. Add some shares, and make sure that both the WinXP box and the PCLOS box have the same workgroup name.

Wait about 20 minutes. You may not really need to reboot, but I have repeatedly found that my Windows boxes take quite some time to establish a connection, and rebooting the Windows box seems to help it along in that process.

BTW, if you haven't updated that system yet, there is a recent samba update.

Yep, I have 3 folders set as shares. I updated a few days ago but I'll check again.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 01:46:20 PM »
Be sure you have opened the needed ports in your firewall.  I was having a similar problem and it was a result of my firewall settings.  Try it first with the firewall allowing everything.  If that works, you will then know if it was or was not a firewall setting.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 01:47:45 PM »
make sure samba service is running in pcc's services section. All it takes for the computer to show up on the network is a running samba service and firewall that is either off or permits samba service discovery
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 02:26:21 PM »
I'm doing a system update right now so I'll see if the Samba update changes anything.  I haven't set anything in the firewall so I believe it is allowing everything.  But I'll check it when the update is done.  Also I assume the samba service is running since I can see other computers from this one.  I just can't see this one from the other sytems.  In other words I can look out but I can't look in.  I'll let you know what I find after my update is done.  Its just finishing up now.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 02:38:18 PM »

samba is made up of two components, samba-server and samba-client. You need samba server installed and running for other computers to see local shares over the network and you need samba-client installed to see network shares from other computers on the network.

Seeing other computer shares over the network is totally unrelated to other computers seeing your shares.
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 02:45:33 PM »

samba is made up of two components, samba-server and samba-client. You need samba server installed and running for other computers to see local shares over the network and you need samba-client installed to see network shares from other computers on the network.

Seeing other computer shares over the network is totally unrelated to other computers seeing your shares.

OK, so if thats the case it sounds like I don't have samba server set up properly.  I have the update complete and my firewall is set to allow everything.  But at this point its still a no go.  I'll see what I can find about Samba server.  I know I was in there earlier and ran the 1st run wizard, but I didn't know exactly how to set it up.  So I may have some incorrect paths or something.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 02:49:40 PM »

what do you get when you type this command on the terminal and enter root's password when asked? (copy and paste the command)

su -c "service smb restart"
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2010, 02:51:32 PM »
OK, I think I'm on to something.  I went into the PCC and under 'Manage system services by enabling or disabling them' I found that smb was not starting at boot.  So I turned this on and the computer showed up on my network.  Unfotunetaly I was not granted permission to access it.  So thats the next step now.

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2010, 02:53:56 PM »

what do you get when you type this command on the terminal and enter root's password when asked? (copy and paste the command)

su -c "service smb restart"

Should I still do this or did I already answer that question?

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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 03:00:43 PM »

what do you get when you type this command on the terminal and enter root's password when asked? (copy and paste the command)

su -c "service smb restart"

Should I still do this or did I already answer that question?


you have already answered it. Samba service is running and the computer showed up on  the network. The problem now is permissions. First, make sure those folders you want to share over the network are readable and writable to owner, group and other"
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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 03:05:51 PM »

what do you get when you type this command on the terminal and enter root's password when asked? (copy and paste the command)

su -c "service smb restart"

I did it anyway,  just before you replied. I got

Failed for shutting down SMB and NMB
OK for starting them



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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 03:15:55 PM »
I did not change the settings on smb to start at boot.  Should I do that?  I restarted it and it appears to have remained running this time.

I had to go into my root account to change permissions but its still not giving me access.  Should I change these form withing Dolpin or somewhere else?


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Re: I can't find my PCLOS PC on the network
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2010, 03:26:10 PM »
Yes, enable smb to start at boot in PCC/Services...
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