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Offline pinoc

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KDE4 FullMonty Light configuration
« on: October 07, 2010, 02:07:52 AM »
The PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty is an alternative KDE desktop providing 6 activity-focused virtual desktops (screenshots) to address typical user-needs:
1) Internet: email, internet, chat, instant messaging, file sharing, etc.
2) Office: OpenOffice, calculator, financing, etc.
3) Games: some games...
4) MultiMedia: convert music, watch/make DVDs, etc.
5) Graphics: applications for working with images and photos, post-process, draw, etc.
6) System: system info, administration, configuration, etc.

To test/use the FullMonty (FM) desktop you can get
a) FullMonty: get the (4GB!) DVD-iso image, burn it to a DVD or use it in a virtual machine environment, run the live-session and, if you like it, install it as usual. Discussion on the FullMonty-DVD can be found here, or
b) fullmonty-light: install only the basic FullMonty desktop layout and its tools (in Synaptic search for and install kde4-config-fm): the idea of fullmonty-light is to give the user a light-weight FM without the need to download a 4GB iso. In addition, the user can customise the FM-system by setting up his/her preferred applications (see Important notes below).

The following 3 FullMonty tools are included and available from PCmenu -> More Applications -> Configuration:
1) fm_info: provide basic information about the FullMonty base installation and your system.
2) fm_setwidgets: select one of 12 pre-configured plasma config-files to either match your screen-resolution or to restore a pre-defined FullMonty-desktop layout. This tools can also be used to a) unlock and then personalize your current desktop layout or to adapt it to a non pre-configured screen-resolution, and b) to set the startup desktop.
3) fm_switcher: switch between the FullMonty and the default PCLinuxOS KDE desktop layout which is then applied to any new user on the system.


Important notes for the fullmonty-light setup provided via Synaptic:
Installing FullMonty is a customized KDE installation and will remove Compiz because Compiz is incompatible with the FM desktop. After installing kde4-config-fm via Synaptic the FM desktop layout will be applied to any new user added to the system. This means existing system users will have the same desktop as before and you have to add a new user to activate the FM-desktop. The folder view containers of the 6 FM desktops refer to applications provided by the default KDE installation. When applied to a non-KDE desktop, or if you have applications installed which are not on the default KDE-iso, you will find that some launchers show a question mark, indicating missing applications. You can either install the missing application via Synaptic or, if you do not want that application, simply delete the respective launcher (rightclick -> Delete). To add a new application launcher into any of the folder view containers on the 6 virtual desktops, follow these steps:
a) rightclick inside the folder view container on your virtual desktop and select: Create New -> Basic link to file or directory
b) in the second field of the Plasma Workspace window: browse to /usr/share/applications/(kde4) and select the application launcher (.desktop file) you want to add
c) in the first field of the Plasma Workspace window: rename the application launcher to your liking, then press OK.

With these steps you can now personalise your FM-system having your preferred applications only. Please also read the information in the file FullMonty_readme.txt in your Home directory.

have fun,
-pinoc
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 12:42:11 PM by pinoc »

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 02:53:52 AM »
This looks like the ideal ........  thanks for all the work   ;)

Just one question  - for clarity - if I may .....

IIUC installing fullmonty-light replaces the default settings for new users.

If it is subsequently uninstalled is the old default replaced again?

Thank you.

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 03:06:31 AM »
This looks like the ideal ........  thanks for all the work   ;)

Just one question  - for clarity - if I may .....

IIUC installing fullmonty-light replaces the default settings for new users.

If it is subsequently uninstalled is the old default replaced again?

Thank you.

after installing FM:
- the FM desktop is the default for new users; existing users are unaffected, which also implies that the root-account will always have the default KDE desktop.
- you can use fm_switcher to change back/forth between FM and default KDE for any new user. Example: you could add some new users with the FM desktop, then run fm_switcher and then add some other new users having the default KDE desktop, all on the same system  ;)

uninstalling FM will restore the original state in /etc making the normal KDE desktop the default for new users.
regards,
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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 03:23:04 AM »

uninstalling FM will restore the original state in /etc making the normal KDE desktop the default for new users.
regards,
-p.

Thank you for clarifying   ;)

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 08:44:42 AM »
Nice work!
I have to ask, what is the method that you used to crate a default user profile for new users created?  I have come pretty close to doing this but more with brute force hacking than anything else.  I understand that there is java script that can be reconfigured to produce the default user profile.  However this script is usually in /usr/share/kde4/apps.  This dir. doesn't exist in PCLOS.  Any tips would be very much appreciated.
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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2010, 09:06:02 AM »

uninstalling FM will restore the original state in /etc making the normal KDE desktop the default for new users.
regards,
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Thank you for clarifying   ;)

Just a follow-up post .......  it is a while since I got a smile from booting into the desktop, but a new user set up after installing Monty did just that for me.   ;D

Lovely!

Thank you very much.

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 01:29:03 AM »
Nice work!
I have to ask, what is the method that you used to crate a default user profile for new users created?  I have come pretty close to doing this but more with brute force hacking than anything else.  I understand that there is java script that can be reconfigured to produce the default user profile.  However this script is usually in /usr/share/kde4/apps.  This dir. doesn't exist in PCLOS.  Any tips would be very much appreciated.
Soup

Don't know about or use that java-script. As a looooong-time KDE-fan (since KDE 2) I prefer to figure out and understand how things work in KDE4. So, for each modification from the default user profile I tried to understand which files are modified in which way, i.e., comparing the changed user-profile and /etc/skel with ls -lat and then a diff on the changed configuration files. Then generalise these changes to make them username-independent and set them up in /etc/skel where the user-profile is stored. This has the nice side-effect to teach you a lot about the way how KDE works  ::)  It may be a tough way but it's fun, like solving a riddle...  ;)
If you have installed FM you can compare the files in /etc/skel_fm and /etc/skel_default to find the differences of FM wrt the default profile. 
And if something is added to the default profile one must find out how to do that, another riddle to solve...  Then setting up the fm_tools to accomplish what I wanted to do with the FM desktop setup. In summary, the FM-setup is just a personalised version of a KDE desktop, using features of KDE4 (folder-view and widgets), in a way I thought might be meaningful and to provide a structured and task-oriented multi-desktop setup.
hope this helps,
regards,
-p.


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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 05:23:44 AM »
Since you will not have all those applications installed you will find that some launchers show a question mark, indicating missing applications. You can either install the missing application via Synaptic or,...
I installed some of the missing apps and they work but their icons still show question marks.
I could edit the "Icon=" row in the files to point to needed .png file but it's too much of work if there exists more general way to make them show up. Do you know how to do this?

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 05:27:38 AM »
Since you will not have all those applications installed you will find that some launchers show a question mark, indicating missing applications. You can either install the missing application via Synaptic or,...
I installed some of the missing apps and they work but their icons still show question marks.
I could edit the "Icon=" row in the files to point to needed .png file but it's too much of work if there exists more general way to make them show up. Do you know how to do this?

yeah, don't know why, they will work after installing the respective application but still show a question mark... Easy way is to remove and recreate the launcher as explained in the OP, then you can also give them the name you want  ;)
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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 05:31:44 AM »
Thanks, that's easier.
I'm very pleased by your FullMonty :D

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 05:36:21 AM »
Thanks, that's easier.
I'm very pleased by your FullMonty :D

Great! And I'm pleased to hear you like it!   ;)

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty configuration
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2010, 04:56:07 PM »
It is a beautifull very big piece of technology.
But it keeps producing activities on itself. Can I stop that please? :D
« Last Edit: October 16, 2010, 04:58:43 PM by computer »

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty Light configuration
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2011, 07:15:50 PM »
FM light is removed from Synaptic ?? Cant find Tried all repo ...

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Re: KDE4 FullMonty Light configuration
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2011, 07:46:20 PM »
yes, correct, temporary removed because it will be provided in a different way sometime soon.
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Re: KDE4 FullMonty Light configuration
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2011, 02:17:17 PM »
yes, correct, temporary removed because it will be provided in a different way sometime soon.
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When we should expect new release ??