[SOLVED - Thanks Tex]]KDE 4.5.2 did not fix desktop bug??

[newbi462]

Um some people have been saying updating to 4.5.2 fixes the desktop auto resort bug, but I just upgraded and desktop is still possessed.

Is there a trick to make the update make the icons on my desktop stay put so they stay where I want them?

I am using grid and priveiw but every time I try and drag a file it resorts and half the time adding a file or folder resorts to

[Old-Polack]

Um some people have been saying updating to 4.5.2 fixes the desktop auto resort bug, but I just upgraded and desktop is still possessed.

Is there a trick to make the update make the icons on my desktop stay put so they stay where I want them?

I am using grid and priveiw but every time I try and drag a file it resorts and half the time adding a file or folder resorts to

Nope! Still broke.

[Texstar]

Yes, it is fixed. Here are my settings. My icons haven't moved once since putting them where they are on the desktop last week. I log in and out and they have never moved.

[Old-Polack]

And here are mine, and everything jumps around like Mexican jumping beans. Widgets will stay put, icons will not, using KDE's own definition of the difference. Being as the reported problem concerned icons, it is not fixed.



Until icons stay in their locked position, always, the problem remains.

[Cris70]

Tex, my settings are the same as yours, but for the fact I have "align to grid" enabled. My icons still move on their own 

[newbi462]

For a test tuned "Align to grid" off to see if that was the cause but nope when I do drag and drop BOOM out sort

Hopefully we can figure out what is different between our systems and Tex's so we can get fixed to.

It is better than it was but if I have a file on the desktop open the temp files open office wrights eventual lead to the desktop auto resorting

about 10% of the time making a folder or file on the desktop leaded to auto resort

if I delete any thing from or do a drag to to move a file or folder into another on the desktop triggers an auto resort

So resorts are keyed by actions rather than purely random, but the end result is my desktop wont do what it is told if I am using it. And I put the files on the desktop because that is where I want them, so need a way to have them there and have the desktop behave like I tell it to.

[rubentje1991]

I think Texstar only has widget-icons on his desktop,

but other people here have 'normal'-icons on the desktop
(little bit confusing: two different types of icons possible)


Thus, if you put 'widget'-icons on your desktop, you won't have any problems anymore with that icons
(but e.g. documents on your desktop will still move (auto resorting automatically), when you do something (saving, changing properties, etc.))

[newbi462]

I get what you ae saying but the end result is the desktop is unusable I put documents on y desktop because that is where I want them.

I know if I take them off my desktop it will behave but like I said they are on my desktop because that is where I want them.

This whole KDE bug is putting a real sour taste in my mouth. I love KDE Linux but I cant honestly recommend it to anyone right now because I know anyone who uses it right now will be in a boxing match with their computer. And honestly who would not get annoyed with that.

Am I the only one who as of late feels like with KDE we have all been enrolled in a beta? Dont get me wrong some of 4.5 is great but this desktop bug makes it largely unusable. At this point 4.5 has been updated 2 times it it still dose not work properly. I am starting to think a role back to a stable working ver of 4.4.x so the computer behaves like it is supposed to until 4.5 is properly working and not having what are clearly beta bugs that have not been worked out.

What do the rest of you think? 

[Cris70]

I think you're exaggerating things a bit.
It is an annoying bug, but saying it makes KDE unusable is too much IMO.
I am perfectly happy with KDE 4.5.2; I would be happier if this bug was fixed, but I can't say it is disrupting my work environment.

Bye
Cris

[mikkl]

In windows, putting icons on your desktop slows the overall machine due to having to track all of those icons under every window.  I have always assumed Linux is the same and therefore I only have one icon or widget on my desktop, the trash can.

mikkl

[malspa]

In windows, putting icons on your desktop slows the overall machine due to having to track all of those icons under every window.

Wow, I never knew that.

Back when I was a Windows user, I noticed that one of my co-workers kept her Windows desktop mostly free of icons, and she was one of the most efficient and organized workers at that job.  (By the way, she indirectly led me to Linux by introducing me to Firefox, which was the first time I'd ever heard of open source software!  She never warmed up to Linux herself, though.)  I started to work in Windows more and more without desktop icons, and that carried over to Linux, and now I don't use desktop icons at all.

[ElCuervo]

In windows, putting icons on your desktop slows the overall machine due to having to track all of those icons under every window.  I have always assumed Linux is the same and therefore I only have one icon or widget on my desktop, the trash can.

mikkl

I don't think that's completely accurate. It certainly is not a good idea to store large files on your desktop, but shortcuts aren't really that much of a problem. Here is one person that agrees (check tip #6 - also note that it only refers to versions up to XP), and there are many more if you do a GIS. Active Desktop, on the other hand...

http://web.archive.org/web/20040625103325/http://www.algonquincollege.com/its/support/pc/windows_efficiency.html

[fraxinus]

but other people here have 'normal'-icons on the desktop
(little bit confusing: two different types of icons possible)


Thus, if you put 'widget'-icons on your desktop, you won't have any problems anymore with that icons
(but e.g. documents on your desktop will still move (auto resorting automatically), when you do something (saving, changing properties, etc.))

Yes indeed. When starting to learn KDE4 and the Plasma desktop, one of the things I found most confusing was the distinction, in terms of behaviour, between desktop icons and widgets ...

[hal8000]

I have icons, txt files and images on my desktop. These all moved especially when I emptied trash can.

I removed the trash can, clicked the cashew added a new trashcan widget then locked widgets.
I now find icons locked in place. (Not sure if this bug is related to trash can applet.)

[Ramchu]

I have icons, txt files and images on my desktop. These all moved especially when I emptied trash can.

I removed the trash can, clicked the cashew added a new trashcan widget then locked widgets.
I now find icons locked in place. (Not sure if this bug is related to trash can applet.)

Maybe- Just Maybe that is why I haven't experienced this problem - I don't have a trash can on my desktop
it resides in the panel on my computer.