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Offline shankle

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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 04:01:44 PM »
To 4evergr8ful,
Would you be so kind as to give a few instructions on how to switch
from Firefox to Konqueror.
I especially want to move my bookmarks without a lot of hassle.
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 05:40:30 PM »
To 4evergr8ful,
Would you be so kind as to give a few instructions on how to switch
from Firefox to Konqueror.
I especially want to move my bookmarks without a lot of hassle.

You must first export your Firefox bookmarks to an .html file because Firefox bookmarks are now stored in a file called places.sqlite which cannot be imported in one single step. It's still easy. Just involves an extra step.

First open Firefox and click Bookmarks -> Organize Bookmarks
Then the Bookmarks "Library" window will pop up. Click: Import and Backup -> Export HTML...
Choose a location to export your bookmarks.html file to and save it.

Then from Konqueror's Menubar click: Bookmarks -> Edit Bookmarks...

The "Bookmarks Editor" window will pop up.
From there click: File -> Import -> Import Mozilla Bookmarks...
Navigate to the directory where you just saved the bookmarks.html file. Open it and your Firefox bookmarks will be imported.

For fonts I think Rekonq did a really nice job so I basically just copied Rekonq's font layout. There is already a great list of AdBlock Filters and Web Shortcuts to choose from in Konqueror's Settings -> Configure Konqueror so make sure to take a look at them and check the ones you want. Others can be added manually of course. Also Konqueror supports mouse gestures now. So for scrolling web pages you can just middle click and move the mouse.

Enjoy.


« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 06:49:11 PM by 4evergr8ful »
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2010, 06:05:46 PM »
FF is NOT what it used to be. 1.000.000.000 addons or...or...nothing. Anyway, sooner or later people will start to complain...But, we do have alternatives:
- epiphany
- midori
- iron [chrome]
- opera
- konqueror
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2010, 08:08:08 PM »
To  4evergr8ful,
I changed to Konqueror tonight with your excellent instructions and bookmarks
intact. Very nice. Response time is a second. Firefox 30+ seconds. Bye FF.
I am a Windozzzz guy so PcLinuxOS is a little tough for me.

Could I bother you once more for details on Rekong's fonts. 
Like where, how etc.
At what point would you recommend deleting FF?

This message is coming to you from FF. Konqueror won't let me post a reply
to my own message. Can't get into the Bug report program either.
Hope this will go through.

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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2010, 08:16:14 PM »
To  4evergr8ful,
I changed to Konqueror tonight with your excellent instructions and bookmarks
intact. Very nice. Response time is a second. Firefox 30+ seconds. Bye FF.
I am a Windozzzz guy so PcLinuxOS is a little tough for me.

Could I bother you once more for details on Rekong's fonts. 
Like where, how etc.
At what point would you recommend deleting FF?

This message is coming to you from FF. Konqueror won't let me post a reply
to my own message. Can't get into the Bug report program either.
Hope this will go through.



FF 30 seconds to what?


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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 05:39:56 AM »
you should really use chromium, not konqueror for web browsing.
konqueror is capable, to a certain extent, as you made sure, but its NOT exactly made for web browsing.

you being new to the linux world, you still have to get used to, even new things emerge same like in the windows world, to what application (by name) is used to do what, for which purpose, how does it perform on your present hardware and to which extent is it imposing load on you as a user (user friendliness, operational workflow, etc)

chromium does look a bit funny, but believe more like ie8, so you should be ok with it. you can try using the rest, synaptic has an inbuilt search, keyword web browser or browser, you ll find your match as per individual preferences.

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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 05:49:25 AM »
you should really use chromium, not konqueror for web browsing.
konqueror is capable, to a certain extent, as you made sure, but its NOT exactly made for web browsing.

you being new to the linux world, you still have to get used to, even new things emerge same like in the windows world, to what application (by name) is used to do what, for which purpose, how does it perform on your present hardware and to which extent is it imposing load on you as a user (user friendliness, operational workflow, etc)

chromium does look a bit funny, but believe more like ie8, so you should be ok with it. you can try using the rest, synaptic has an inbuilt search, keyword web browser or browser, you ll find your match as per individual preferences.

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Where do get that response from? Konqueror has won all kinds of awards for excellence as a browser.  ???
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 05:52:56 AM »
V:

This is posted from Konqueror. No problems at all.

shankle:

In what manner did Konqueror prevent you from posting? As stated above, it's working exactly as expected here.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 05:58:56 AM by old-polack »
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 06:04:28 AM »
you should really use chromium, not konqueror for web browsing.
konqueror is capable, to a certain extent, as you made sure, but its NOT exactly made for web browsing.

First of all starting a sentence with "You should" anything really isn't the way to go on this forum unless you are an Administrator and even that has been rare over the years.
Second, to what extent is Konqueror not capable? Honestly, I'd like to know. And third, what exactly is Konqueror KDE4 made for? I'm just curious.
I'm not a Konqueor fanboy or trying to promote Konqueror or anything like that. I just happened to mention it in my first post because I just so happened to be using it at the time and the thread evolved from there. So could you please clarify.  

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chromium does look a bit funny, but believe more like ie8, so you should be ok with it.

Yes, exactly but instead of Microsoft monitoring and logging all your activity Google does with even newer technology and proficiency than Microsoft could have.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 06:17:47 AM by 4evergr8ful »
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 06:43:12 AM »
Thanks guys for your responses.
To Old-Polak,
It happened again this morning. Can't reply to my thread with Konqueror.
Here is what happened:  I was signed on in Konqueror.
Typed my message and hit post.
Up comes a window listing me as a Guest.

You are not permitted to post replies to topics on this board.
Please log in below or register an account with PcLinuxos-forums.

This message is from Firefox. Must be something I have done but WHAT?

The plot thickens. I just posted a reply using Konqueror to the Hard
Drive Installation. It posted without any problems.
Nothing is ever easy. :'(

« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 07:01:25 AM by shankle »
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2010, 08:26:07 AM »
here goes: you should or you could i dont consider much of a difference cause i am the only authority on MY computer and am stating my experience. what anyone else should and will do is solely up to them and no one else, even if venerable linus torvalds or anyone else of the gnu gurus themselves posted something, its just a plain advice one can follow, implement or not after being satisfied with the results or not. i hope that clarifies MY opinion and relevant advice i stated with full freedom, same as anyone else here. if i was using the older machine, as i have, than i may have noticed the poor performance of konqueror over other browsers. this involves flash and the rest (talking out of the box, since one can even teach a donkey to sing and talk like a human with enough time and will to do it).

about the konqueror problem youre having in regard to staying logged in, maybe your cookies settings are done awkward. save session cookies in order to stay authorised to anything, mail, web page requiring it, this forum.

about the security and user habits tracking (data mining), for one, i shall say the obvious, and this i have said LONG ago on this forum:

this forum log in page has HTTP only enabled, no security in a way of HTTPS, like mail servers have, same goes for facebook, for example.

about anything else, disallowing cookies, using tunneling like vpn etc should do the work, regardless of browser, and there are quite a few ways to have quite nice low flying comm over the net.

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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2010, 09:10:31 AM »
here goes: you should or you could i dont consider much of a difference cause i am the only authority on MY computer and am stating my experience. what anyone else should and will do is solely up to them and no one else, even if venerable linus torvalds or anyone else of the gnu gurus themselves posted something, its just a plain advice one can follow, implement or not after being satisfied with the results or not. i hope that clarifies MY opinion and relevant advice i stated with full freedom, same as anyone else here. if i was using the older machine, as i have, than i may have noticed the poor performance of konqueror over other browsers. this involves flash and the rest (talking out of the box, since one can even teach a donkey to sing and talk like a human with enough time and will to do it).

about the konqueror problem youre having in regard to staying logged in, maybe your cookies settings are done awkward. save session cookies in order to stay authorised to anything, mail, web page requiring it, this forum.

about the security and user habits tracking (data mining), for one, i shall say the obvious, and this i have said LONG ago on this forum:

this forum log in page has HTTP only enabled, no security in a way of HTTPS, like mail servers have, same goes for facebook, for example.

about anything else, disallowing cookies, using tunneling like vpn etc should do the work, regardless of browser, and there are quite a few ways to have quite nice low flying comm over the net.

In other words, you personally had problems with Konqueror on an older machine, so you conclude, therefore, that Konqueror wasn't designed for browsing? That's probably the must illogical thing I have ever seen posted on this forum.

It doesn't occur to you that your local problem could be the fault of the older machine, or how you had the browser configured? That others do not have the problems you say you had doesn't figure into your equation? The fault must lie with the software, because it didn't perform as you thought it should, on that one machine, and it must not have been designed as a browser, based on the same evidence? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds to the rest of us?

If you don't care to use Konqueror, for whatever reason, simply say, "I prefer other browsers." We all have our preferences, but we don't make ridiculous and unfounded statements to justify our preferences. ???  :(
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2010, 09:23:47 AM »
fair enough, im still incapable of using the coloring, i must be dumb.

stange enough, you never did comment any on the data mining/https for example?

btw, i have used konqueror on my new machine, i am capable of using it, but dont consider it a fully fledged WEB browser as such, so you may call me dumb...

other do the job, for me, much better, thats just me.

about giving the unfounded statements, without the physical evidence in adequate number, this forum has enough weight carry around (quality), and if someone says they had some different experiences/opinions than mine, i ll note that, also noting there could be very much various reasons for such experiences/opinions.

hope that was ok on my side, ridiculous or not

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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2010, 12:21:54 PM »
To V,
I will NEVER use Chromium or anything related to Google as
IMHO they invade your privacy. I can't stand companies that do
that sort of thing and there are quite a few of them.

Don't bash me to much on this as I, like you, am entitled to
my opinion.
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Re: Firefox is very slow on PclinuxOs
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2010, 01:41:07 PM »
i wasnt bashing anyone, nor was forcing anyone to use anything by placing a gun to their heads, i just stated an alternative.

whatever that alternative will be and for which reason, well, that is entirely on each individual user.

are we good on this now?