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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2010, 04:35:31 PM »
http://www.hirensbootcd.net/download.html

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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2010, 08:25:20 PM »
note:  hiren is sort of no legal, or at least it was before, some of the tools they offer are not free
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2010, 08:54:37 PM »

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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2010, 10:52:35 PM »
Hey, how long should I let the memtest86 run for? So far its over 12 hours.... with 4 pass and zero/0 errors ..
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2010, 10:54:44 PM »
Hey, how long should I let the memtest86 run for? So far its over 12 hours.... with 4 pass and zero/0 errors ..

You're good. Stop any time. :D
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2010, 11:04:36 PM »
thank for responding old-polack now am gonna run some other test..... so far Hard drive is good, memory is good. more test results will be updated soon.....
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2010, 02:24:11 AM »
I am going to play the devils advocate here but do you have pets in the house, namely cats?
Or do you run your Laptop on your bed, with no hard surface (I.E. LARGE book or piece of plywood) beneath it?
Do you eat above or near your Laptop?
Are you running a good Anti-Virus program on Vista ( Vista = memories of windoz Millennium.Edition. build a piece of crap and force it on all the masses and dump it in 2 years or less).
Why am I asking ....(A). Sounds like a cooling issue, cat fur built up in internal fan...
                           (B). Cooling issue, you are running it on soft surface and it simple cannot pass enough CFM of air across processor to cool it.. It cannot breath when running on soft surfaces, plus it will pick up dust there also...
                           (C). You have dropped something down threw the top vent that is in the way of rotation of the fan.... Fan cannot spin system will lock first and then just shut off to preserve itself.

Solution for all 3 problems above, find someone that has a CHEAP Leaf blower, WHY CHEAP, you need one that produces less than 100 MPH Peek power, (from tube or front of blower, also an old Vacuum that has a blower on it works very well).

 Sit the Laptop on a HARD CLEAN surface, Ask someone to hold it for you if available. Blow air ( and all of the people that will say go by canned air, that does NOT produce enough air flow to help...) into the bottom port (VENT intake) on the bottom of the laptop ( Laptop is OFF when you do this  )
DO NOT get the tip of what ever blower you are using right into the vent.
DO NOT blow for more than a few seconds at a time, like 2 or 3 seconds only, any longer and the fan will burn up the bearings/ frictionless pads/ hydraulic fluid.
Switch Back and forth blowing in one side and into the back and into the bottom, do each side repeatedly.
I have worked on thousands, of laptops dating back to 2001 and this is one of the most common issues I have seen.

Now about the anti virus, If you got a root kit and you are NOT wiping ( Means formatting the entire disk, NOT Quick format, complete data destruction for ALL data on that disk ) and reinstalling Vista then it will just come back each and every install...

Rant for the week complete, Thank you all for your time...
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 02:28:46 AM by Bannor65 »

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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2010, 09:42:44 AM »
Hey, how long should I let the memtest86 run for? So far its over 12 hours.... with 4 pass and zero/0 errors ..

You're good. Stop any time. :D

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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2010, 03:25:21 PM »
I am going to play the devils advocate here but do you have pets in the house, namely cats?
Or do you run your Laptop on your bed, with no hard surface (I.E. LARGE book or piece of plywood) beneath it?
Do you eat above or near your Laptop?
Are you running a good Anti-Virus program on Vista ( Vista = memories of windoz Millennium.Edition. build a piece of crap and force it on all the masses and dump it in 2 years or less).
Why am I asking ....(A). Sounds like a cooling issue, cat fur built up in internal fan...
                           (B). Cooling issue, you are running it on soft surface and it simple cannot pass enough CFM of air across processor to cool it.. It cannot breath when running on soft surfaces, plus it will pick up dust there also...
                           (C). You have dropped something down threw the top vent that is in the way of rotation of the fan.... Fan cannot spin system will lock first and then just shut off to preserve itself.

Solution for all 3 problems above, find someone that has a CHEAP Leaf blower, WHY CHEAP, you need one that produces less than 100 MPH Peek power, (from tube or front of blower, also an old Vacuum that has a blower on it works very well).

 Sit the Laptop on a HARD CLEAN surface, Ask someone to hold it for you if available. Blow air ( and all of the people that will say go by canned air, that does NOT produce enough air flow to help...) into the bottom port (VENT intake) on the bottom of the laptop ( Laptop is OFF when you do this  )
DO NOT get the tip of what ever blower you are using right into the vent.
DO NOT blow for more than a few seconds at a time, like 2 or 3 seconds only, any longer and the fan will burn up the bearings/ frictionless pads/ hydraulic fluid.
Switch Back and forth blowing in one side and into the back and into the bottom, do each side repeatedly.
I have worked on thousands, of laptops dating back to 2001 and this is one of the most common issues I have seen.

Now about the anti virus, If you got a root kit and you are NOT wiping ( Means formatting the entire disk, NOT Quick format, complete data destruction for ALL data on that disk ) and reinstalling Vista then it will just come back each and every install...

Rant for the week complete, Thank you all for your time...


Most of what you said I've already tried, I know for a fact that vista is crap, three years ago when I tried it I removed it the same day. So what I did is installed windows 7 and everything seems fine for now. Its been on for a couple of hours so I can see whether its still freezing up or not. Remember this system is not even a year old. I also did a memory, Hard drive test, CPU seems fine because its not staying at 100% in task manger.  Hope the motherboard is not part of the problem plus the vents are clean.

Thank you all once again....
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2010, 03:34:57 PM »
Just a thought, is this one of the laptops built with the nvidia chip that overheats? 8600m or something.
Sorry if i missed a spec list.
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2010, 04:15:19 PM »
www.bleepingcomputer.com

lots of good help there for people having problems with computers running Windows OS systems
and help solving hardware problems

not saying that the help that you get here is any less useful.

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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2010, 04:41:08 PM »
No one mentioned running off the livecd?
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2010, 07:51:30 PM »
if it wasn't the first, was the second suggestion  ;)

some recovery and test tools are os independent or run on DOS, that is why we mention specific recovery and diagnostic tools different to pclinux

about changing the os, i have worked with vista and if you have problems with partitions, vista will do all those nasty things, complete reformat, something you probably did with win 7 install was what you required

that is one of those things i don't miss about windows, eventually ntfs will break or fail in a interesting weird way
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2010, 09:03:25 PM »
No one mentioned running off the livecd?


Live CD wouldn't be much help it better if the OS is installed on the Hard drive to detect any significant changes, seeing that Livecd runs slower  using RAM to function....
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Re: Free diagnostic tools ?
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2010, 11:29:04 AM »
Just a thought, is this one of the laptops built with the nvidia chip that overheats? 8600m or something.
Sorry if i missed a spec list.


its using----> Mobile Intel GS45 Express
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