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kikinovak

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Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:12:26 PM »
Hi,

I just installed a fresh PCLinuxOS 2010.7 on one of my machines, and I'm wondering : how comes it defaults to Thunderbird as mail client? Not that I don't like it, on the contrary: I'm using it on my main PC (running a personal mix of CentOS 5.5 and Fedora), but I'm curious. Is it because KMail isn't stable enough? I've been a GNOME user for the last three years, but KDE4 looks like it's developing into something stable and mature, and I decided to use it on one of my workstations.

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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 10:47:54 AM »
I am having to try and get my wife to use/learn Thunderbird now because KDM-Pim Kmail feature just doesn't work with the new 2010.07 distribution for us.  (It was fine with 2009 and worked fine for about a week until it went bad).    Now she cannot send or receive any emails at all.  We have spend hours on removing and re-adding/updating the settings and this week I completely reformated the "/" partition on the HD and did a fresh install.   No luck or changes - Kmail just doesn't work.   My wife really wants to use the Kontact/kmail so maybe it will get better someday and it may work fine for you - or you may end up spending hour after hour trying to get it to work.

I am also having lockup issues that I never had before.  

I am testing another distribution with Gnome now after having to spend far too much time with the apparent KDE problems.  
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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 10:52:37 AM »
Hi,

I just installed a fresh PCLinuxOS 2010.7 on one of my machines, and I'm wondering : how comes it defaults to Thunderbird as mail client? Not that I don't like it, on the contrary: I'm using it on my main PC (running a personal mix of CentOS 5.5 and Fedora), but I'm curious. Is it because KMail isn't stable enough? I've been a GNOME user for the last three years, but KDE4 looks like it's developing into something stable and mature, and I decided to use it on one of my workstations.

KDEpim is under development and won't be really stable until they port it to akonadi with kde 4.5.2 or kde 4.5.3.

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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 10:53:53 AM »
I am having to try and get my wife to use/learn Thunderbird now because KDM-Pim Kmail feature just doesn't work with the new 2010.07 distribution for us.  (It was fine with 2009 and worked fine for about a week until it went bad).    Now she cannot send or receive any emails at all.  We have spend hours on removing and re-adding/updating the settings and this week I completely reformated the "/" partition on the HD and did a fresh install.   No luck or changes - Kmail just doesn't work.   My wife really wants to use the Kontact/kmail so maybe it will get better someday and it may work fine for you - or you may end up spending hour after hour trying to get it to work.

I am also having lockup issues that I never had before.  

I am testing another distribution with Gnome now after having to spend far too much time with the apparent KDE problems.  

A simple fix was posted on this forum last week for send and receive issues with kmail. You just set encryption to none for both.



« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 11:00:02 AM by Texstar »

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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 07:33:12 PM »
I am having to try and get my wife to use/learn Thunderbird now because KDM-Pim Kmail feature just doesn't work with the new 2010.07 distribution for us.  (It was fine with 2009 and worked fine for about a week until it went bad).    Now she cannot send or receive any emails at all.  We have spend hours on removing and re-adding/updating the settings and this week I completely reformated the "/" partition on the HD and did a fresh install.   No luck or changes - Kmail just doesn't work.   My wife really wants to use the Kontact/kmail so maybe it will get better someday and it may work fine for you - or you may end up spending hour after hour trying to get it to work.

I am also having lockup issues that I never had before.  

I am testing another distribution with Gnome now after having to spend far too much time with the apparent KDE problems.  

A simple fix was posted on this forum last week for send and receive issues with kmail. You just set encryption to none for both.


Nothing simply about it all for me.  I have tried setting encryption to none with no change at all.  

Then I found the following changes recommended in another thread in attempt to fix:

oot@localhost lib]# cd /usr/lib
[root@localhost lib]# mv libcrypto.so.0.9.8 libcrypto.so.0.9.8_backup
[root@localhost lib]# ln -s libcrypto.so libcrypto.so.0.9.8
[root@localhost lib]#


Now I cannot even get Kontact to even start up at all.  I guess I'll keep spending more hours searching.  I hope I don't have to end up doing another reformat and fresh install.  I sure don't know what happened here to suddenly have Kmail not work after an update but this is an example of why it is difficult to recommend some of my other family members switch over to Linux.   They just don't have the patience or ability to spend hour after hour trying to fix things.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 07:36:49 PM by Cressida »
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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 07:48:35 PM »
That's unfortunate about KDEPIMs instabillity. Kontact/KMail is an excellent program when it works correctly, it's right on-par with shareware Windows PIM programs like Barca2 (excellent BTW) in functionality. I'm a Thunderbird user though, but thats only because my linux TB shares its data with windoze TB -- very elegant for one like me who goes back and forth.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 07:53:33 PM by Zero Angel »

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Re: Thunderbird vs. KDEPim
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 03:23:33 PM »
ln -s libcrypto.so.1.0.0 libcrypto.so.0.9.8 <- is the correct link.