PCLinuxOS Openbox Bonsai 2010.11<s>.13</s> who wants to test ?

[melodie]

This tool (need to use it in Windows, alas won't work with wine) : http://www.linuxliveusb.com allows persistence, but I don't know how it proceeds to settle it.

PS: I suppose you already know about linux-live scripts ? http://www.linux-live.org

[Was_Just19]

This tool (need to use it in Windows, alas won't work with wine) : http://www.linuxliveusb.com allows persistence, but I don't know how it proceeds to settle it.

I don't need Windows to create a Linux live USB device.
So why use it?

I don't use Win anyway .....

PS: I suppose you already know about linux-live scripts ? http://www.linux-live.org

Why go to the trouble, when we already have mylivecd?

Sorry ...  just don't see the point of doing anything with it.

[melodie]

This tool (need to use it in Windows, alas won't work with wine) : http://www.linuxliveusb.com allows persistence, but I don't know how it proceeds to settle it.

I don't need Windows to create a Linux live USB device.
So why use it?
I don't use Win anyway .....

I am referring to another point of view, which is "how to ease other people's access to Linux ?". This tool, as well as your's is a possible answer. I don't use Windows either but I have one installed on a small partition, to make tests on it once a while when I need to run a free software I don't know too much before advising it to someone.

PS: I suppose you already know about linux-live scripts ? http://www.linux-live.org

Why go to the trouble, when we already have mylivecd?
Sorry ...  just don't see the point of doing anything with it.

Just possible technical informations. It is not about making the iso that I wanted to show you this link but about the method used to get the changes in the given file. I know that Slax uses a compressed archive for that. (3 sizes possible) I don't know how you create a filesystem (linux fs) in a file : could you explain that to me ?

[Was_Just19]

I have not created such a file for a few years so you may have to do a bit of trial and error .....

create a file.
use the dd command to fill it with zeros to maybe 256MBs

The file is then 256MB in size

Then create an ext filesystem in that file using the command line mkfs

It should then be usable as a changes file.


But of course I may be missing some important part I do not presently recall  

EDIT
          It seems I remembered correctly as I have just made such a file here,
I used the right click option in Dolphin to create the file.
I then used the dd command to fill it to the required size ...
dd if=/dev/zero   of=/path-to-filename   bs=1MB count=100  
which gave a 100MB file.

Then still in Konsole

mkfs.ext2  <path-to-filename>

and elected to continue - ignoring the warning it gave.

After that I was able to loop mount the file and treat it like any other partition in the system.

mount -o loop  <path-to-file>  <existing mount point>

I am unsure if other parameters should be used when making the filesystem .....  but I would try the above first to see if it worked ......  my memory is not very comprehensive regarding this as I only rarely used it, and then only for tests.

regards.

[melodie]

Hi,

Just19, thanks for your informations. Some precise informations are probably available on the web anyhow.

Next version coming : will wear the new name.  :-)
Additional packages : rfkill, eject, and updates : have been updated, iso-codes, libarchives2, liblzma2, and xz.

[melodie]

Hi,

The new version with the new name is available:
http://melodie.tyruiop.org/pclinuxos-core-cli-and-children

pclinuxos-openbox-bonsai-2010.11.12.iso   07-Nov-2010 20:13    262M
pclinuxos-openbox-bonsai-2010.11.12.md5sum   07-Nov-2010 20:13    70

I should take 5 minutes to change the screenshots at first page...

Regards,
Mélodie

[smurfslover]

Downloading...

[menotu]

downloading......

I don't know whether this is your own server melodie or if its hosted but it's very fast for downloads

[Was_Just19]

Hi,

The new version with the new name is available:
http://melodie.tyruiop.org/pclinuxos-core-cli-and-children

pclinuxos-openbox-bonsai-2010.11.12.iso   07-Nov-2010 20:13    262M
pclinuxos-openbox-bonsai-2010.11.12.md5sum   07-Nov-2010 20:13    70

I should take 5 minutes to change the screenshots at first page...

Regards,
Mélodie

Hi Melodie,
                     Got the ISO and and booted it without any difficulties. Looks very good and is very fast.

I did, for the first time, come across a situation I had not met previously. I am NOT saying this is peculiar to your ISO.

I have a partition on one PC which is beginning to give some errors ........  it is not shutting down cleanly. That causes, on reboot, the partition to be checked .....  it passes the check and boot continues.

On that PC, after an unclean shutdown of the sda8 partition, while running Bonsai from liveUSB, the search for the loop image stopped at the unclean partition, and would not search further. It thus stopped in mid-boot unable to mount the loop file.

It would be interesting to know if you have ever come across this situation or if it could be induced on your setup to check, as if that is the case generally, then this ISO would not be suitable for recovery purposes in its present form ......  maybe it just needs something else installed for that purpose.

If I get a chance to test this again I will report back my findings.

regards.

[melodie]

Hi,

No specific setup for check is performed on iso images. This can only be done by the formatting tool. ie : drakdisk (look in the file
/usr/lib/libDrakX/fs/format.pm), gparted, mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext2 (and be changed with tune2fs and it's options).

[melodie]

downloading......
I don't know whether this is your own server melodie or if its hosted but it's very fast for downloads

Hi menotu,
Neither nor : it's the hosted server of a buddy who is an Archlinux user. His main page: http://tyruiop.org

He offers space to me at no cost, with ftp and ssh access.

[Was_Just19]

Hi,

No specific setup for check is performed on iso images. This can only be done by the formatting tool. ie : drakdisk (look in the file
/usr/lib/libDrakX/fs/format.pm), gparted, mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext2 (and be changed with tune2fs and it's options).

I think you misunderstood what I said.

The ISO will not boot from USB device is there is an unclean partition in the PC.
The search for the loop image (livecd.sqfs) stops at the unclean partition and never progresses further to the USB device.
I have tried LXDE-mini in the same situation and it boots, apparently ignoring the unclean state of the internal partition.

regards.

[melodie]

Hi,

Try to see in the services section if you find one activated here and not there and vice versa, and try to activate speedboot: set the /etc/sysconfig/speedboot to "auto" (as it is in all the other versions) then tell me if it changes something ?

It does not seem a logical way to seek for a solution but for now it's the only parts I know to be different from Lxde mini. (that's to say speedboot, but for the services I don't know exactly).

Regards,
Mélodie

[melodie]

PS: I don't have any rotten parition in any machine actually, but if the preceeding settings to be checked doesn't bring a clue, then I suggest you do a new try, by reinstalling again the image iso on a fresh partition on your usb stick (even if it is at that rotten partition on hard drive that it stops to).

[Was_Just19]

PS: I don't have any rotten parition in any machine actually, but if the preceeding settings to be checked doesn't bring a clue, then I suggest you do a new try, by reinstalling again the image iso on a fresh partition on your usb stick (even if it is at that rotten partition on hard drive that it stops to).

I will try a different USB stick with a new install just to be sure it is not the USB stick that is getting worn.

EDIT:
            Did a fresh live install to a second USB stick with the same results.