PCLinuxOS Openbox Bonsai 2010.11<s>.13</s> who wants to test ?

[nixer]

I just emailed the logs to you.

The reinstall of RC1.5 will take a little longer.  I am downloading printerdrake now and the repository is a little busy.  It was much faster this morning.  I do not want to change to a different repo.

[nixer]

No good news Melodie.  Actually I lost the mouse and keyboard quicker in RC1.5 than I did in RC2.  In RC1.5 the system totally locked up while it was scanning for printers.

When booting both RC1.5 and RC2, I noticed that the HAL daemon started upon boot.  However, after installing printerdrake, it will not start (along with the Avahi service).  

Upon further examination, in RC1.5, it acts just like it did in RC2.  I can log into the console and the keyboard and mouse will still function, but when I "startx" as a user, the keyboard and mouse will not function.

This is the output of synaptic after printerdrake is installed in RC1.5:

While installing package samba-common-3.4.3-3pclos2010:

Creating password file for samba...

While installing package scli-0.2.12-9pclos2007:

install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/scli.info.bz2'

I don't see anything that could be fatal here, but I am including it just so you will know.

Do you want me to try this again with an earlier build of OB-mini?  I will if you think it will help backtrack to find the problem.

EDIT:  The only program that I installed between the install of RC1.5 and the printerdrake was gnome-commander.   I installed gnome-commander so that I could save the printerdrake files to another computer, just in case I would need them again.  Printerdrake is a 207mb download that takes up over 500mb of additional space, but you probably already knew that.

[melodie]

No good news Melodie.  Actually I lost the mouse and keyboard quicker in RC1.5 than I did in RC2.  In RC1.5 the system totally locked up while it was scanning for printers.

When booting both RC1.5 and RC2, I noticed that the HAL daemon started upon boot.  However, after installing printerdrake, it will not start (along with the Avahi service).

 

When log in as root in tty, (login : root and password root, not from user to root) what does the console return if you invoke this ?

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#/etc/rc.d/init.d/haldaemon start
or

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#/etc/rc.d/init.d/haldaemon restart
?

Upon further examination, in RC1.5, it acts just like it did in RC2.  I can log into the console and the keyboard and mouse will still function, but when I "startx" as a user, the keyboard and mouse will not function.

Does this machine has a smp cpu, and you didn't mention "smp" when you installed Grub ? (Just a thought, that happened to me once and I searched for some time why the usb devices=keyboard and mouse where not seen anymore....).

This is the output of synaptic after printerdrake is installed in RC1.5:

While installing package samba-common-3.4.3-3pclos2010:

Creating password file for samba...

While installing package scli-0.2.12-9pclos2007:

install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/scli.info.bz2'

I don't see anything that could be fatal here, but I am including it just so you will know.

Do you want me to try this again with an earlier build of OB-mini?  I will if you think it will help backtrack to find the problem.

Not yet. Could you send me the Xorg.0.log that is in /var/log/ after you fail starting X ? You also could try to see the errors, as root in tty, with this command:

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#grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
and for warnings:

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#grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
If you want to redirect the output to a file, you can add at the end of the lines "> xorg-log.txt" (for instance, or "> xorg-log-EE.txt" if you want to make one file for each).

EDIT:  The only program that I installed between the install of RC1.5 and the printerdrake was gnome-commander.   I installed gnome-commander so that I could save the printerdrake files to another computer, just in case I would need them again.  Printerdrake is a 207mb download that takes up over 500mb of additional space, but you probably already knew that.

No I don't. I use PCManFM and Sakura only, along with mc. If I want to send files to other computers I use a pendrive, or scp with commands such as this one:

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$ scp pclinuxos-openbox-mini.RC2.iso melodie@192.168.0.90:/home/melodie
This is fast and reliable when you have your local network. (It uses ssh-server/ssh-client which is installed in all OB Mini versions, and running).

I'll try to see if I can do a test install and find out something on my side. I've got only one printer, available only directly to USB, but why not make the test... It's a HP PSC 1610, printer and scanner.

[nixer]

Melodie, I will try these commands, but I can't find the keys on the keyboard.  Is there a command to enter to change the keyboard to a "us" layout?  I thought you posted a command a page or two ago so I will go and see if I can find it.  

EDIT:  "loadkeys us" works just fine... 

[nixer]

#/etc/rc.d/init.d/haldaemon start

and

#/etc/rc.d/init.d/haldaemon restart

Both of these show "OK" when started at the root/root console.  

From the console logged in as root, I ran "startx" and it loaded with the mouse and keyboard working fine.  I "exit" the console as root and as the guest user ran "startx" and the system started and ran fine as well.

I rebooted and allowed an uninterrupted process.  I got some Avahi error messages and the HAL daemon did not start.  At the login window (bootsplash), the mouse and keyboard did not work.

I tried the console boot login as root/root again to verify the findings the manual start of HAL.  It did work.

Does this machine has a smp cpu, and you didn't mention "smp" when you installed Grub ?

Actually, I had to google "smp cpu" and I honestly don't know.  It is a Gateway 800mhz P3 processor, if that helps.  The keyboard and mouse are PS2 connected, not usb.  I did no mention of smp at Grub.

Here is the output of the Xorg.log file that mentions a HAL error.  It is the end of the file:

(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
(EE) GLX: could not load software renderer
(II) GLX: no usable GL providers found for screen 0
(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)

EDIT:  Spelling corrections

[melodie]

Does this machine has a smp cpu, and you didn't mention "smp" when you installed Grub ?

Actually, I had to google "smp cpu" and I honestly don't know.  It is a Gateway 800mhz P3 processor, if that helps.  The keyboard and mouse are PS2 connected, not usb.  I did no mention of smp at Grub.

I received you X log file. I would like to see a full output from "lshw" now. You have to install it (from repos), start is at root and redirect it's output to a file too.

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# lshw > lshw.txt

Here is the output of the Xorg.log file that mentions a HAL error.  It is the end of the file:

(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
(EE) GLX: could not load software renderer
(II) GLX: no usable GL providers found for screen 0
(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)

You have some warnings too:

$ grep WW Xorg.log.hal-error.txt
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) "dri" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere.
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for v4l
(WW) NV(0): Option "PreferredMode" is not used

A thought : what if you would install the driver for your nvidia card instead of staying with just nv ? Wouldn't that help ?

[jlf001]

Hi Mélodie,

I'm downloading RC2 at present.  I think I'll do a VirtualBox install first and get back with you.

Jeff

[jlf001]

Mélodie,

RC2 is up and running in VirtualBox.  Just a couple of things.  First off, I could not get PCManfm to hold my folder View selection "Detailed List View" upon exiting the program.  I checked the pcmanfm.conf file and view_mode is still unchanged.  Secondly, I had to add the user group sound to my guest user, in order for sound to work.  It would seem that there should be a way to set this by default when creating a new user, however, I've not been able to figure it out yet.  I'm off the install RC2 on my HP.

Jeff  

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[nixer]

A thought : what if you would install the driver for your nvidia card instead of staying with just nv ?

Well, I tried.  I installed the nvidia96xx module that I think of for a very old Vanta TNT card.  I could not figure out how to change the drivers in PCC > Hardware > Videocard setup.  Normally, it asks me if I want to use a proprietary driver, but it didn't ask.  I then changed the xorg.conf file from "nv" to "nvidia" and it broke the xserver with a "screen not found" error. 

I cleared off a partition on another system, installed RC1.5, and then printerdrake, and the same thing is happening.  The specs to this second machine are:
1.4ghz Athlon, 1.5gb ram, nvidia FX5400 (or is it a 5500?)

[melodie]

Hi,

Jeff, I don't get it all. Do you mean you want the detailed list view to be the default when you start pcmanfm again ?

For the group thing you are right, but I don't know either. That would be nice if someone with more knowledge of the distro can come and help on this matter.

nixer, for the driver number, would you check here ? →
http://www.nvidia.fr/Download/Find.aspx?lang=us

I don't mean to get the driver from there, just the information about the right one or the closest one (I don't see FX 5400 listed for example, but I see FX 5500).

[melodie]

I add this to remember to do it : I should add the guest background.jpg for user gdm login so that it shows credentials...

[melodie]

About printerdrake : I don't have it on my main machine, but my printer does work. I added just what I need for the one printer I use and the depends followed by itself. (It was best configured with hp-toolbox : not printerdrake, not cups... where I configured it first, but it was never ready to work from there : HP PSC 1610 3-in-1)

What if you configure the printer or the printers with just what they need and not more ?

Oops, I have a problem.

I installed printerdrake and all of its dependencies through synaptic.  I configured two printers - one connected to another pclos computer and shared and the other a network computer connected by ethernet.  Both computers were configured easily and normally and I only tried to print from one of them.  It worked fine.
...
My system is a PIII 800mhz, with 512mb of ram, 12gb harddrive.
...

I then "exit" as root to become the guest user, ran "startx" at the console and at the bootsplash window, I had no mouse or keyboard function. 

I also noticed that upon booting, the HAL daemon and the Avahi daemon "FAILED" to start. Oh, and I did verify the md5sum and ran a media check, which passed, before installing.  I did notice that after synaptic ran, there was a "Fail" notice that something (file, folder, or program?) wasn't found.  I should have saved it, but I didn't.  If someone verifies this, please save this message.

I don't know what else to test/check.

What are the brand and models of theses 2 printers please ? Could they be configured individually ?

(I'll get weary about printerdrake... )

[melodie]

Jeff : pcmanfm in RC2 : detailed view holds if you go to menu > Edit > Preferences > General > Go down to Default View : select "Detailed List View" in the drop down menu > Close.

Change it now in the menu View too. Close it. Open it again, it should still be there.

[jlf001]

Jeff : pcmanfm in RC2 : detailed view holds if you go to menu > Edit > Preferences > General > Go down to Default View : select "Detailed List View" in the drop down menu > Close.

Change it now in the menu View too. Close it. Open it again, it should still be there.

My error, I missed that!  So far, all else seems to be fine.  RC2 is running great on my HP.  At this point, I'm still trying to sort out the default groups issue and doing a lot of reading.

I do have one suggestion, how about adding "Desktop Preferences" to your openbox menu.  That would give users an easy way to change the desktop wallpaper without having to run "pcmanfm --desktop-pref" from the command line.

Jeff

[nixer]

What are the brand and models of theses 2 printers please ? Could they be configured individually ?

Both are HP's.  One is a Laserjet 1018 and the other is a Photosmart c309a all-in-one.  I could probably get by with configuring through Hp-setup, but I thought it was more important in knowing that it just didn't work. 

I am interested in using this ob-mini to configure a home server and this includes sharing a printer, thus acting as a print server.  Printerdrake is a large download for sure, but it sure works good.  I mention this because in the Openbox 2010_07 version the printerdrake works fine with no errors.  I know this as I have already completely built the server to be used utilizing Openbox 2010_07.  I just haven't installed it, yet.  The KDE 3 (pclos 2009 version) is working fine with only one reboot in 148 days.  I don't want to stop it to install the new software. 

After typing the previous paragraph, the thought occurred to me that I just might need to check the OB 2010_07 version to see if it had the same problem.  Sure enough, it does.  The system froze as it was scanning for connected printers.  It has been installed for several weeks but I never tried to configure the printers.  I should not plan on removing the KDE3, yet.