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Offline henryz

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Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« on: August 14, 2010, 08:01:47 PM »
I'm seeing long (30 seconds or more) when doing a drag & drop file copies between 2 Dolphin panes.  Doesn't happen every time, but does seem to happen more often after copying a large number of files.  Konqueror to Dolphin copies seem OK.  Also - the "Notifications & jobs" popup is also seriously borked - sometimes does not show progress bar movement or only shows movement when you open another window.  

Also getting an occasional complete lockup of Dolphin windows - 4.5.0 overall seem less stable than 4.4.5 - not good...

Dolphin also crashes frequently or hangs for > 10 seconds when deleting multiple files or folders.  

Could it be this? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232054
« Last Edit: August 14, 2010, 09:05:25 PM by henryz »

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 10:25:33 PM »
As a test create a new user, log in as the new user and see if the problem remains.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 06:45:37 AM »
Test completed - in the new user's login, Dolphin (and the notification and jobs progress bar behave normally).  You must be on to something...  Do I need to reset the existing users' settings or would it be cleaner just to migrate over to a new user?

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 07:04:04 AM »
I found another unusual side effect - now I can't start Synaptic or Konqueror in SU Mode under my original user login- seems like creating a new user & logging in/out borked more stuff on the system.  Going to reload from backup/ditch Dolphin for the time being.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 07:11:17 AM »
If this helps, you can keep konqueror as default filemanager for the time-being. Go to configure desktop>default applications and select konqueror as file manager.
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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 07:28:19 AM »
Yes - that's what I've done for the interim (replace Dolphin with Konqueror).  There seems to be an underlying problem with 4.5.0 and inter-process communication - seems like some apps are trying to "hang on" when they shouldn't.  My Dolphin problem seems to be an instance of this, and the X-org icon woes reported by others could have a similar underlying cause.  I'm wondering if the new caching system that 4.5.0 is allegedly using is messing things up royally?  (Just speculating, folks..)

I think I'll wait to update my spare box.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 07:52:20 AM »
Let me clarify the "new user" test results.  Dolphin was working normally in new user, as well as apps that bring up "Run as root - KDE su", like synaptic or Konqueror in super user mode.  When I logged out and logged into my "old" user,  "Run as root - KDE su" would no longer come up when starting synaptic or Konqueror SU mode.  That's what suggests that interprocess communication (namely 4.5.0's interaction with dbus) is not right in 4.5.0.  Eventually this is going to break something important. 

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 11:20:43 AM »
Bug fixes are going to be rolled out. And why on earth did they have to change the pleasing blue widget color? I wish those idiots at KDE allowed us to reset the widget color!


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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2010, 11:24:28 AM »
Bug fixes are going to be rolled out. And why on earth did they have to change the pleasing blue widget color? I wish those idiots at KDE allowed us to reset the widget color!



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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 10:04:35 AM »
Was testing this issue in new session without the Information Panel open (toggle with F11) then Dolphin is stable in use.
With the Information Panel open it delays/crashing happily again with a lot output/errors in Terminal  (also in a new user).
Toggled with F11 again and is was stable again.  ???
Tested also other sessions and made no differences.

Seems it's indeed  bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232054 and will be solved in KDE SC 4.5.1 (hopefully).

Workaround for a while: close the Dolphin Information Panel with F11.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 10:35:22 AM »
I'm glad to know this bug is at least reproducible.  I'll try your F11 work-around and see how that behaves on my system.  I've been Konqueror in the meantime, and it's behave stably.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 05:10:27 AM »
Yes - the F11 workaround does the job.  I didn't have any use for the info panel, anyway.  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 11:06:30 AM »
I didn't update to kde 4.5 until a few days ago. I didn't get any dolphin crashes at first, but yesterday it kept happening and not surprisingly system performance was really degraded after a crash. Anyway, F11 is the cure, thanks for the tip. 
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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 11:23:04 AM »
I have the same behaviour in both knoqueror and dolphin. Everything I launch from any of them takes about 15 seconds to start.
I was delaying my complaint because I thought it might get solved thru updates, but it's been almost 15 days of using pcmanfm now and I'm getting tired.  :(

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Re: Dolphin delays/crashes in KDE 4.5.0
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2010, 12:15:05 PM »
Hopefully this issue gonna be solved with the KDE SC 4.5.1 release.
It's a KDE SC 4.5.0 bug, not a PCLinuxOS one.
It's a known bug by the KDE developers: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232054

Texstar warned me that KDE SC 4.5.0 is a bit rough in use and most issues wil be solved in 4.5.1 or 4.5.2.

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