Author Topic: [SOLVED] onboard Video card issues geforce 6100 kde4 (Read 1508 times)

docnascar · « **on:** July 30, 2010, 06:00:52 PM »

First off, I had 0 issues with my video card in pclos2009. Worked flawlessly.

This is quit frustrating for me in 2010 as it keeps me from using my linux pc to its potential. I can't upgrade or replace the video card as the motherboard does not support it.

My pc randomly crashes and I get a deformed screen with lines in it. Usually the screen is the colors of whatever application was loaded. Happens mostly when I surf the web or load web browsers. Its happened with konquer, firefox, and opera. However, its happened with the kde games, its happened just working within the desktop. Its extremely repeatable with firefox for some reason.

I had the same issue when using the livecd. Here is that post with my pc specs and issue.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,75605.msg624705.html#msg624705

Now 2010 is installed and fully updated with the latest nvidia drivers and it still crashes. I purposely waited for the latest nvidia driver but it didn't work for me.

Any ideas?

DeBaas · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2010, 03:45:20 AM »

Check if there are other nVidia drivers installed, remove them.

menotu · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:27:56 PM »

Are you certain it's down to your Video/graphic system/drivers?

Could it be a bad memory module - you could run memtest86+ to check.

Have you been inside your PCs case to make sure all the components are seated properly.

Have you tried any other versions of PCLinuxOS (lxde - e17 - gnome etc) ?

Have you tried reinstalling with the latest 2010.7 version?

Chuck · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2010, 07:04:22 AM »

I have the nv 6150 on board video and am unable to use KDE since 2010 finale . No distro with KDE will run on this ,,,thing , I use Xfce and it is normal. No slot to install a video card *&*^%$

Chuck

menotu · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2010, 07:12:47 AM »

Quote from: Chuck on August 03, 2010, 07:04:22 AM

I have the nv 6150 on board video and am unable to use KDE since 2010 finale . No distro with KDE will run on this ,,,thing , I use Xfce and it is normal. No slot to install a video card *&*^%$
Chuck

Have you tried vesa mode?

uncleV · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2010, 07:26:15 AM »

I read somewhere a comment by old-pollack about Nvidia cards and their drivers.

He supposed there that often these cards work better with a driver created at the time the cards were developed.

So may be try an older driver from repo?

menotu · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2010, 07:57:11 AM »

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So may be try an older driver from repo?

Good thinking

Chuck · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:10:35 PM »

I always use the vesa mod to install then try getting the right video driver in PCC

Chuck

menotu · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:47:42 PM »

The older drivers don't work?

docnascar · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2010, 04:49:49 PM »

Quote from: menotu on July 31, 2010, 12:27:56 PM

Are you certain it's down to your Video/graphic system/drivers?

Could it be a bad memory module - you could run memtest86+ to check.

Have you been inside your PCs case to make sure all the components are seated properly.

Have you tried any other versions of PCLinuxOS (lxde - e17 - gnome etc) ?

Have you tried reinstalling with the latest 2010.7 version?

Yes my hardware is good. Otherwise it would not have worked on PCLOS 2009. As well, my pc is fully up to date.

Quote from: uncleV on August 03, 2010, 07:26:15 AM

I read somewhere a comment by old-pollack about Nvidia cards and their drivers.

He supposed there that often these cards work better with a driver created at the time the cards were developed.

So may be try an older driver from repo?

How do you install old drivers that are comparible with PCLOS 2009 but will work with PCLOS 2010? I thought this was not good to do because you can bork your system, not using something in the current repo that provides updates.

Quote from: DeBaas on July 31, 2010, 03:45:20 AM

Check if there are other nVidia drivers installed, remove them.

Which drivers do I un-install? There is a list of them automatically installed by PCLOS for nvidia.
x11-driver-video-nv
x11-driver-video-nvidia173
x11-driver-video-nvidia96xx
x11-driver-video-nvidia-current

dkms-nvidia173
dkms-nvidia96xx
dkms-nvidia-current

Thanks.

uncleV · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2010, 02:56:49 AM »

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I read somewhere a comment by old-pollack about Nvidia cards and their drivers.

Well found it!
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Sometimes you have to experiment with nvidia drivers to find a correct match, especially with older cards. The drivers that were current when the card was new, usually work better than the newer "improved" drivers that also include support for many newer cards. While adding support for the newer cards, many times the earlier cards in the series get seriously messed up. The earliest drivers that had full support for the particular card one has, will then give much better results than the newer "improved" versions.
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There seems there was a thread about it too but is missing,

docnascar · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:45:03 AM »

This is what it does.

DeBaas · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2010, 12:15:27 PM »

try this:
Ctrl-Alt-F2
login as root
password
nvidia-xconfig
Ctrl-Alt-F8(or7)
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace(2x)

and try again

After last update:
I replaced /etc/X11/xorg.conf with an older version to get my video settings right.
If you want I can show them both as reference, just ask.

docnascar · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2010, 08:21:08 PM »

Quote from: DeBaas on August 10, 2010, 12:15:27 PM

try this:
Ctrl-Alt-F2
login as root
password
nvidia-xconfig
Ctrl-Alt-F8(or7)
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace(2x)

and try again

After last update:
I replaced /etc/X11/xorg.conf with an older version to get my video settings right.
If you want I can show them both as reference, just ask.

Hi Debass.
I'm not sure what all of that did. I did it and my pc will still crash if I load up firefox. Actaully firefox will come up, but either a few seconds later or when I start surfing in it, BAM...crash..

Interesting note. I get a warning when I did the nvidia-config. I have a usb mouse. I did swap my mouse out before and still had the same crashing issue, so I put my usb optical mouse back. Its alot nicer than a roller mouse. Though I'm not sure what a mouse has to do with nvidia.

The warning was similar to this. I had to type it, because I don't know how to save a "cli" screen shot.

Code: [Select]

Using x configuration file: "/etc/x11/xorg.conf"

warning: unable to find corepointer in x configuration; attempting to add new corepointer section.

warning: the corepointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first mouse device.

backed up file 'etc/x11/xorg.conf' as 'etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup'

New x configuration file written to 'etc/x11/xorg.conf'

docnascar · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2010, 08:49:01 PM »

I don't feel so alone. Found this bug tracker for Mandriva. Don't know if its solved or not.
http://lists.mandriva.com/bugs/2009-07/msg01788.php

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Using the system normally, without launching any specific program or without performing any particular task, the X server crashes and reboots, consequently I lose everything I was doing. I'm not doing anything special when it crashes, and it can happens in any moment, while browsing the web, listening to music, chating... anything. I took a look to the logs, but I didn't find anything relevant, however, I can be wrong.
I couldn't find anything that "shoots" the crash.

Except for me, mozilla applications accelerate it quickly for some reason.

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