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Offline halfmanhalfamazing

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Full update = system unusuable
« on: July 11, 2010, 06:20:39 PM »
Good thing I did a full update on a computer that didn't matter.

I'm hoping it's just something specific with my system, but I just did a full update(haven't done that since kde 4.4.2 was in the system) and now I've had to do a complete reinstall.

Due to what was going on, I really couldn't take a screen shot.  The only thing I could do was log in as root, and it only went to a command line.  It was the weirdest thing, the background changed, and there were about 30 different login names available.  (trying to do my best to describe)

Anybody else have a spare computer/drive that they could do a full update on and see if they have any problems as well?

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 06:23:24 PM »
what repo were you using?

can you log in as root and use desktop?

i have seen problems with installations after partial updates but never heard about multiple users created from nothing
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 06:43:08 PM »
I wish I could give you more specifics.

Whatever comes off of the disk.  I just set up a whole new computer for use in another room, as soon as the live cd popped out and I rebooted I fired up synaptic clicked reload, mark all, then apply.

All that seemed to go fine.

It was the second reboot that  was the end.

I have reinstalled already, doesn't take very long.

-----------what repo were you using?-------------

Whatever repo is sought after by synaptic after a fresh install.  I made no changes.

-----------can you log in as root and use desktop?-------------

Root yes, desktop no.

----------i have seen problems with installations after partial updates but never heard about multiple users created from nothing------------

I wish I knew how to explain it.  At first I thought it might have been listing the groups, but I'm looking at the groups list now and that isn't it.

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 06:47:03 PM »
As I open up synaptic and look at my repos list, it has to be the nluug.nl/ibiblio repo.  I usually don't go messing around with that.

Mainly cause I don't have the time.  The first repo has always worked for me, so I've left it at that.

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 07:00:58 PM »
I did an update only 18 hours ago. Started the update and left the computer alone for about 2 hours and about 500MB downloaded. Now and then I would check progress. When it finished it was unusually long working away and I was following the messages and after a while I started using the pc at the same time.

I had gkrellm installed and could follow the activity. during this period my two processors were running at 95%+ which had be rather surprised.  At this stage I was only taking snapshots of the activity probably about every minute. When the update seemed finished the processors bot still very high (can check figures when I get back on a linux run, in a Windows pc at the moment)
Then I rebooted after which the processors down around 5% normal running. I did manage to look at top which showed that DKMS-daemon was plastered to the top position rock solid. (Don't know what dkms is yet).

The update however seems to have been very successful as I have not noticed anything abnormal since and I have had a good solid work out.

Did you see any messages during the update process?

How long had the computer been used for  before you did the update, confusing as your last messages indicate you have just installed LiveCD and then did an update?

How old is your computer roughly, what sort?  konsole entry indicates the graphics failed in my opinion.  :)



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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 07:10:46 PM »
That's good to know.

It's not new.  Athlon 1.8ghz.

I don't really need any updates at the moment, Ill just try again at some later time.

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 07:25:08 PM »
That's good to know.

It's not new.  Athlon 1.8ghz.

I don't really need any updates at the moment, Ill just try again at some later time.

What exactly did you install?
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 07:29:13 PM »
try to use a different repo, ibiblio is not the best option for users

indiana or other options are better

sometimes you can hit a partially updated repo so reload after you finish a update is a good idea

the latest update was big here too, 350 mbs so it is a important update

when you can't log in to the kde desktop you can log in to other desktops, that is why i have always 2 or 3 extra installed, as a plan b

that way you can load and diagnose the installation, config files and other things avoiding to reinstall or even load the livecd
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 07:52:09 PM »
I successfully updated some few hours back. I have not yet restarted. I need to see if the problem happens to me as well.

I have not changed the default repository. It is "http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/pclinuxos/apt/"
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 08:00:46 PM »
i updated already 3 times this week(including the big one and gimp update), i am using a new a64 kernel and it runs perfect

it is not a general problem i think
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 08:06:37 PM »
I recommend starting with an updated ISO and keep up with the updates at least weekly.

http://pclinuxos.com/?page_id=10
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 08:16:44 PM »
Yes, it is not a general problem. I too have no problem after rebooting.

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2010, 08:27:26 PM »
Excuse m popping in:  ;D

This is not in direct reference to OP topic, but repo selection was brought up a coupla times:
To choose a repo simply run the Repository Speed Test in the Software Center on the startmenu. It tests all the repos & offers you a list of the fastest ones.
Works great!
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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 08:52:12 PM »
--------------What exactly did you install?--------------

2010.1 mini me

My KDE version off of the live disk is 4.4.2

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Re: Full update = system unusuable
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2010, 09:04:00 PM »
I hadn't noticed the 2010.7 release.  Thanks for the link Tex I'm downloading it right now.

Also, for my other computer I dragged out a spare hard drive and did an install as well as full update - jjust so I could see if it would do it on a different computer.  It does.  One computer has an athlon 3000+ on an abit/nforce motherboard.  The other has an athlon 1.8ghz and a cheapy motherboard that's SIS based.  Both have ati r200 based graphics cards in them.  As to what I am seeing, here is a very detailed description:

The screen I get is a graphical login screen.  The background that appears does not say pclinuxos on it.  Doesn't say anything.   It looks very similar to this:

http://www.net-security.org/images/articles/suseentlinux11.jpg

Except it's blue instead of green, and it has more...............  waves I guess you could describe that as.

The grey graphical login box says welcome to linux at localhost.  It has a clock underneath it.  Under the clock is the box where I can type in username/password.

The first five login options I have is Nobodynobody adm bin daemon and games.

When I log in it only allows me to go to a command line.   And, the command line interface is only one quarter of the screen, on the top left.  If I log in as user, the background is white with black text, if I log in as root it's black with white text.  Well, some red text too.

It also gives me a warning :  Could not find charset data for locale C.  I presume this is choking on something relating to the programming language.

I'm going to bed but I'll leave this like this until later tomorrow.  What should I do with it before I reformat it tomorrow afternoon?
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