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Offline iMoron

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Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« on: June 24, 2010, 05:25:27 PM »
I am working on a desktop that locks up an won't react to any command or key combination.

I have tested memory and hard drive and they are OK. Am thinking it might be the processor but after placing an other processor the problem persist... which points me to the motherboard.

Now... my question is: Is there any app that can test the CPU and maybe other components besides the memory and hard drive?

By the way this comp has a "BIOSTAR :: MCP6P M2+ v 6.1" motherboard with 1 GB Ram and a 160 GB ExcelStor Hard Drive (basically an IBM reject ???!!! err ...) with a Sempron CPU and... the rest...

It seems odd that I can trigger the look when I am using synaptic... sometimes it will go OK... most it will Frizzed... No artifacts on the monitor or anything, which to me means that the internal video card "might be OK" but I don't know...

Anyways I hate it when the hardware gives this types of failures... It looks OK until who knows what... well faulty hardware... This problem also happens on Windows XP, but way worse! Won't boot... just restart, not even its "Safe Mode" helps.

So... is there a way to use some app tool to get a definitive diagnostic on this cadaver? Am sure it is dying!

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 07:02:21 AM »
I have the same video card and have had nothing but trouble with it since the 2010 release. I am now using XFCE
with the same card and have had no trouble.So if you have a different video card around , try it
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 07:33:26 AM »
Have you tried running a LiveCD to see what happens then?

Are any BIos settings "tweaked" to improve performance etc? Mebbe you could set it back to default if it is.

Power supply?
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 09:30:28 AM »
On mine the live CD runs ok , after the install ,before anything can be set it locks up , screen goes to a /// look.
 This also occurs with the mini, All of the other DE's work ok . That is why I asked him if he a different vid card
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 10:23:06 AM »
have read the original post a few times and can't seem to see what video card is in mention ??  could someone point this blind fool to the mention of video card type  ??
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 11:05:18 AM »
Was just a thought , any port in a storm
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 11:23:46 AM »
Was just a thought , any port in a storm

from my little know .. this sounds like a video problem.. but can't find any mention of a video card in OP's first post ??
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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 05:55:06 PM »
Lets play the guess game: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 GPU


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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 06:20:18 PM »
Lets play the guess game: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 GPU



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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 11:37:47 PM »
I am working on a desktop that locks up an won't react to any command or key combination.

I have tested memory and hard drive and they are OK. Am thinking it might be the processor but after placing an other processor the problem persist... which points me to the motherboard.

Now... my question is: Is there any app that can test the CPU and maybe other components besides the memory and hard drive?

By the way this comp has a "BIOSTAR :: MCP6P M2+ v 6.1" motherboard with 1 GB Ram and a 160 GB ExcelStor Hard Drive (basically an IBM reject ???!!! err ...) with a Sempron CPU and... the rest...

It seems odd that I can trigger the look when I am using synaptic... sometimes it will go OK... most it will Frizzed... No artifacts on the monitor or anything, which to me means that the internal video card "might be OK" but I don't know...

Anyways I hate it when the hardware gives this types of failures... It looks OK until who knows what... well faulty hardware... This problem also happens on Windows XP, but way worse! Won't boot... just restart, not even its "Safe Mode" helps.

So... is there a way to use some app tool to get a definitive diagnostic on this cadaver? Am sure it is dying!

Thanks in advance!

Can you confirm the video card in use on the system affected?

use 'lapci |grep VGA' in a konsole, without the quotes and noting the case sensitive search pattern

That will stop all speculation if it is the system in your sig or not..

Please remember to give as much information as you can with issues so the process of troubleshooting can be assisted without speculation.

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Re: Hard Frezze! Diagnostic... what to use!
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 01:55:16 PM »
My sig!?? uh... no no no... not my rig, a tower am fixing for a client!

And just like genomega said:

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 GPU

I should have supplied the link to the mobo before!!!

My bad... thou I did mention the Motherboard brand and number...

Besides all that, I am more interested in finding some diagnostic applications for this type of situations. I will look in to the video card possibility by using plain "vesa" or "frame buffer" modes and see how it goes. Though, like I said before, am interested on finding some diagnostic programs for CPU and MoBo that might help with this dilemmas. This tends to become time consuming situations that ... well... takes more time than it should... Besides, I don't want a client telling me things if I were to return the machine "almost working" you know... I want to make certain it is good or trash.

Thanks for the attention... sorry for the confusion...


 
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GeForce 6150 SG Integrated Videocard 256MB ~ VIZIO 42" 1080p TV