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Offline Jonesy

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Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« on: June 10, 2010, 11:43:21 AM »
I'm running a fully updated Minime 2010 KDE4 install and want to enable desktop effects so I  tried to find the 71xx drivers because they work on the older GeForce 2, ultra, bladerunner cards but they seem to be missing, even VIT cant install them. Pity coz I know for a fact they also work on my card.so I tried the nvidia 96xx proprietary driver packages from the repo for my somewhat old NVIDIA Bladerunner  GeForce 2 ultra card but I still can't enable desktop effects. I checked xorg conf and the driver was still set to "nv" so thinking what worked in KDE 3 will work in KDE4 I changed that to"nvidia" but x wouldn't start. It just booted to a prompt. startx wouldn't work so I reverted back to "nv" in xorg conf and all was back to the way it was.



Why isn't the proprietary nvidia driver working? Better still where is the 71xx driver package all of a sudden?
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 12:52:05 AM »
I'm running a fully updated Minime 2010 KDE4 install and want to enable desktop effects so I  tried to find the 71xx drivers because they work on the older GeForce 2, ultra, bladerunner cards but they seem to be missing, even VIT cant install them. Pity coz I know for a fact they also work on my card.so I tried the nvidia 96xx proprietary driver packages from the repo for my somewhat old NVIDIA Bladerunner  GeForce 2 ultra card but I still can't enable desktop effects. I checked xorg conf and the driver was still set to "nv" so thinking what worked in KDE 3 will work in KDE4 I changed that to"nvidia" but x wouldn't start. It just booted to a prompt. startx wouldn't work so I reverted back to "nv" in xorg conf and all was back to the way it was.



Why isn't the proprietary nvidia driver working? Better still where is the 71xx driver package all of a sudden?


Took me less than a minute using Google (keyword nVidia)  to chase down the nVidia site, and the support link, to find the driver search page, then make the entries that lead to this.

 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_71.86.13.html

The actual download took 7 seconds. I'd be willing to bet it took much longer for you to write the question in your post.  ;D  It certainly took me longer to write this answer.  ;D ;D

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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 03:06:17 AM »
I'd be willing to bet it took much longer for you to write the question in your post.  ;D  It certainly took me longer to write this answer.  ;D ;D

There's always KTouch and good old TuxType.   :)
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 03:12:04 AM »
I'd be willing to bet it took much longer for you to write the question in your post.  ;D  It certainly took me longer to write this answer.  ;D ;D

There's always KTouch and good old TuxType.   :)

There's one in every crowd.  ;D

I actually have KTouch installed on all my installations, and have had for years. I learned to type with it, and the grand-kids also use it now.  ;D ;D
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2010, 11:15:31 AM »
I'm running a fully updated Minime 2010 KDE4 install and want to enable desktop effects so I  tried to find the 71xx drivers because they work on the older GeForce 2, ultra, bladerunner cards but they seem to be missing, even VIT cant install them. Pity coz I know for a fact they also work on my card.so I tried the nvidia 96xx proprietary driver packages from the repo for my somewhat old NVIDIA Bladerunner  GeForce 2 ultra card but I still can't enable desktop effects. I checked xorg conf and the driver was still set to "nv" so thinking what worked in KDE 3 will work in KDE4 I changed that to"nvidia" but x wouldn't start. It just booted to a prompt. startx wouldn't work so I reverted back to "nv" in xorg conf and all was back to the way it was.



Why isn't the proprietary nvidia driver working? Better still where is the 71xx driver package all of a sudden?


Took me less than a minute using Google (keyword nVidia)  to chase down the nVidia site, and the support link, to find the driver search page, then make the entries that lead to this.

 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_71.86.13.html

The actual download took 7 seconds. I'd be willing to bet it took much longer for you to write the question in your post.  ;D  It certainly took me longer to write this answer.  ;D ;D




What happened to being damned to hell for all eternity for installing from OUTSIDE the repository?.
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 11:27:07 AM »

What happened to being damned to hell for all eternity for installing from OUTSIDE the repository?.


It's a driver, not an application. If it's what you need, and is not in the repository, use the one direct from nVidia. The advantage of using the nVidia drivers from the repo is that it's set to be added to any new kernel you may install automatically via dkms. That doesn't work if the driver is not available from the repo at all.

You can safely install this driver, so you can use your card, then make a request that it be added to the repo as a dkms package. If it gets added. then install the one from the repo. In all other respects it will be the same as the one you install, but will have the automatic update ability for new kernels added.
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 09:59:55 AM »
Okey Dokey, just trying to stick to the rules. I already have the driver package which I installed on Fed so I'll just ship it over to this box and install it.

Wish I had known it just applied to apps not drivers, could have saved myself hours of hassle in the past. We live and learn, that's the beauty of Linux.

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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 07:29:24 AM »
For those not 'in the know', what do you do after that? What is the manual install procedure?
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 12:27:01 PM »
For those not 'in the know', what do you do after that? What is the manual install procedure?

Please clarify... as in, "what do you do after what?" (I did that... you should do that... what to do after that...) When there are multiple possible definitions of what "that" might represent, we need a more definite explanation as to what you define "that" to be.
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 12:50:51 PM »
Your last instructions got to your /home/polack/downloads/nvidia/ in the terminal but..... then what. Full question: How to get a driver (downloaded from nvidia) installed. Also, do you un-install old driver and if so, how?
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 02:09:00 PM »
Your last instructions got to your /home/polack/downloads/nvidia/ in the terminal but..... then what. Full question: How to get a driver (downloaded from nvidia) installed. Also, do you un-install old driver and if so, how?

As root, in konqueror, I open a split window, with the left pane at / and the right at /home/polack/Downloads then drag the nVidia directory to the / pane and select Link Here. This is done after the actual driver installer has been set as executable. Once done I close konqueror.

The driver needs to be installed with X not running, ie run level 3, so I then press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get a tty. I log in as root, then issue the command;

[root@localhost ~]# init 3                        <Enter>

Once at run level 3

[root@localhost ~]# cd /nVidia                    <Enter>

[root@localhost ~]# ./*.run                              <Enter>

The last command starts the installer. Follow the instructions as they appear.

When the installation is complete, and the installer has configured X to use the nvidia driver;

[root@localhost ~]# init 5 && exit                           <Enter>

You should find yourself at the GUI login screen, with the nvidia driver in charge.
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 02:26:48 PM »
Thank you much. I hope this will solve a problem I have been having with system constantly crashing.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 02:36:29 PM »
Thank you much. I hope this will solve a problem I have been having with system constantly crashing.

If there's a video issue, this may take care of it. It could be a kernel issue. The 2.6.32.x kernels crash constantly on this computer, while the 2.6.33.x kernels are solid as a rock. I don't know why, but it just is so, so I use the 2.6.33.5-pclos1 on this installation and the 2.6.33.5-pclos1.bfs on some of the others.
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Re: Nvidia 96xx proprietary driver prob KDE4
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 02:51:12 PM »
I'll have to try both I guess. I mentioned the problem on another post and gave more info. This is a little deep for me. Like, over my upper lip (getting close to the nose). I know what I'll be going this week-end. Thanks again.
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