Drakelive craps out

[steveblezy]

Just like the subject says. I boot the live cd and hit install. Drake live starts and promptly quits. Kinda in a bind at this time. My beta version of kd4 is dead (something to do with a temp folder out of space) and this live cd will not install. I hate to say it, but thank god Windows still runs. At least I can continue downloading live cd and make a few more coasters. Any ideas? It is a normal install on a computer that has had PCLinux on it in the past. Nothing special at all

Steve

[TBABill]

Since your machine has another OS it's safe to assume hardware is all ok. I have to ask questions to gather more info because it sounds like a simple CD error.

1. Did you verify your download of the iso was error free by running md5sum on the file?

2. If the file was ok and you decided to burn it, did you burn at the slowest possible speed your machine can burn at?

3. Did you write it as an image and not a simple copy of the file over onto a CD? What program did you use?

Answer back and we may be able to help a little more with some clarification of the problem you are having.

[steveblezy]

I just tried the mini-me version and get the same thing. Drake starts and quits. If I go to the PCc and try to do anything regarding hard drives, I get a message that says 'Drake unexpectently exited'.

Honestly, @ live cd and the same result, I would have to assume that the burns are OK.

Steve

[steveblezy]

sorry for the spelling errors, I am in a bind as my old install (kde 4 beta) is busted and will not boot, a fresh install will not install and my windows has been given no space to even consider to serve as a daily used OS. Going to have to use the laptop soon.

Steve

[TBABill]

Not a problem at all. I am not running the live CD right now but isn't there a safe mode way to boot up? It's possibly something with X that is not working properly. I have seen some people say after going in another  mode to get it booted (like using a VESA driver) gets the system to a point where you can then configure your software/drivers for your video card.

Just a guess....maybe worth a shot?

[steveblezy]

If I try booting the old install, when I have the KDE slpash screen, it halts after the 3rd icon and spit out an error regarding 'no space in the temp folder'. From there I get a blinking curser that is unresponsive to any form of input. Hence I have to to a hard shutdown that screws the hard drive. Next boot involve error checking and I get to the same place. So I figured that I would do the fresh install as I was intending for a long time. 2 live cds boot as expected but they refuse to install due to drake taking a dump. Anything that involve drake takes a dump. I have been running PCLOS on this computer for a few years now. I would hate to have to start looking at other distros at this point in time, but I need this computer up and running soon.
Steve

[Old-Polack]

If I try booting the old install, when I have the KDE slpash screen, it halts after the 3rd icon and spit out an error regarding 'no space in the temp folder'. From there I get a blinking curser that is unresponsive to any form of input. Hence I have to to a hard shutdown that screws the hard drive. Next boot involve error checking and I get to the same place. So I figured that I would do the fresh install as I was intending for a long time. 2 live cds boot as expected but they refuse to install due to drake taking a dump. Anything that involve drake takes a dump. I have been running PCLOS on this computer for a few years now. I would hate to have to start looking at other distros at this point in time, but I need this computer up and running soon.
Steve

To assume that since they boot, two liveCDs must be OK assumes too much. The PClinuxOS liveCD images are highly compressed so must be burned at a slow speed, and must be checked for the accuracy of the burn. Even when verified as correct burns, the optical drive one is trying to install from must be able to read all the data. A dirty lens can prevent proper reading, so I always recommend having a high quality lens cleaning disk on hand, for use at the first sign of trouble, or physically cleaning the lens with alcohol if necessary. If you were able to install the betas, you should be able to install the final releases, if they are burned correctly and the optical drive can read from them.

As to your beta installation, if it complains that the /tmp directory is full, empty it. Empty the .trash directory also.

[Was_Just19]

There is apparently a problem ........  possibly creating and formatting the partitions beforehand and then installing into existing partitions may overcome the problem.

Worth a try.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,73148.new.html#top

[steveblezy]

Bloody hell. This distro used to be 'radically simple'. An installer used to install. Been doing it for years now. Sorry for the sarcasism, but I have burnt a day doing what used to take 20 minutes in the past.

Will keep this in mind. Going to make a post in an attempt to make contact with the folks that put this together to see if they can figure it out. If not, time to move on to a new distro that will actually install.

Thanks for you time and effort.

Steve

[steveblezy]

It has been a long day of trying to install. I am pretty exhausted at this point so I though that I would write this post. For years I have been using PCLOS and have enjoyed it eminence. Today I find myself back into the world of Window, not by my choice. I have tried to install the latest version of PCLOS with 2 live cd's; the latest greatest versions and the mini-me version. The live CD's boot up as normal, but when I try to install, drake takes a dump. Actually, anything involving drake takes a dump. PCC - hardware, well, it takes a dump. I receive a message that says drake quit expectantly.

I am hoping that someone high up 'the food chain' reads this and can look past the frustration in my wording. What happened? PCLOS used to be 'racially simple". really, it was amazing. install were smooth. it was reliable and a pleasure. Hell, I reserved just a little bit of my HD for windows, just incase something happened. Now today, it in the most important partition that I have. The beta version of kde4 crapped out with a (/temp being full issue) and my planned fresh install has met with disaster. All because drake refuses to do it's job - allow me to install the OS. Hell, drake refuses to even run.

I am sorry if I am pissing anyone off but, I am not a programmer, but rather an end user. Install means install. simple, like in the old days of PCLOS.

I even tried launching the live cd, doing a full update (in memory) and trying to install, but still, nothing. Considering that this very machine hase been running PCLOS for 4-5 years I do not feel that it is a hardware problem at all.

Any feedback is invited. Ban me if you feel that my words are too harsh. Personally, I just want to get this OS on my machine again.

Steve

[Old-Polack]

Bloody hell. This distro used to be 'radically simple'. An installer used to install. Been doing it for years now. Sorry for the sarcasism, but I have burnt a day doing what used to take 20 minutes in the past.

No offense, but for most of us it still does. When a problem arises on an individual machine, one must assume the problem is directly related to the hardware on that specific machine, or the quality of the disk itself. That the installation process works for thousands of installations on an infinite variety of hardware pretty much rules out a major flaw in the software. We can only inform you of the most likely places to look for the source of the problem. If you are not willing to consider the information, there's not much else we can do to help.

Will keep this in mind. Going to make a post in an attempt to make contact with the folks that put this together to see if they can figure it out. If not, time to move on to a new distro that will actually install.

Thanks for you time and effort.

Steve

What makes you think they are not aware of your posts here? Most of those directly involved with creating the official release, as well as the community releases, are regular readers of,  and posters to, this forum.

[Was_Just19]

Bloody hell. This distro used to be 'radically simple'. An installer used to install. Been doing it for years now. Sorry for the sarcasism, but I have burnt a day doing what used to take 20 minutes in the past.

Will keep this in mind. Going to make a post in an attempt to make contact with the folks that put this together to see if they can figure it out. If not, time to move on to a new distro that will actually install.

Thanks for you time and effort.

Steve

Interesting response .........  you posted in that thread yet you seem not to have read that it appears to be a bug in the partitioning utility library  (libparted I think).(edit)

I did report this to GNU bug reporting, though.  Here was their response:

"Thanks for the report!
That looks like a real bug,
and in the most recently released version: 2.2."

[steveblezy]

Sorry if I am pissing people off. i am just very frustrated with this situation. Frustrated as hell.

Steve

[gseaman]

It is not going to piss someone off that you are frustrated and unhappy about it. However, complaining will not solve your problem. Most users have been extremely pleased with how well the 2010 releases have worked, but there are many changes that might impact a few for the worst (kernels, low-level libraries). We would like everyone's machines to work immediately from the cd, but since it did not you can help troubleshoot a work around for you to use and a tweak that may improve the next iso.

The usual questions:
1. Did you verify the download and burn?
2. Did it work on the livecd?
3. What was the first thing that went wrong?
4. Did you try to install to a clean harddrive or use existing partitions?

Galen

[Never_More]

I have a few other questions for you as well!

When you burnt the live cd did you burnt it DAO and not Auto?

Did you burn the live cd the slowest your burner will burn?


These two huge questions that could lead to you not being able to install Pclinuxos.