Author Topic: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items. (Partially Solved)  (Read 715 times)

Offline scbs29

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Sorry, but I seem to be continually complaining. I do like KDE4, but as I use it more and more I seem to experience more and more
problems. Is it me ?

When I installed PCLos 2010 I had a Utilities folder on my desktop containing Install video card and as far as I can recall items to do with
remastering cds.
This folder has disappeared.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,64514.0.html mentions this folder and says that it contained shortcuts to items in the
menus. Unfortunately these items do not exist in my menus either.
I thought of trying the menu editor to see if I could sort out something, but this has also disappeared from my menus.
Is this menu editor kmenu ? I did see a mention of this, but I do not have this either.
Should I try yet another reinstall ?
« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 09:10:20 AM by scbs29 »
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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items.
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 06:12:18 AM »
the "Utilities"-folder you mention was a feature of the 2009 release. The current 2010 release does not have this folder. However, the content of this folder was only a collection of shortcuts which were always also accessible from the normal PCmenu.  If you want you can create a folder on your desktop, call that folder "Utilities" and copy the links to whatever applications you want into this folder.
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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items.
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 06:21:08 AM »
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, as I said, none of these items appear in any of my menus.
Also, forgive me if I am wrong, but in the 2009 release wasn't there only one item to remaster a live cd ?
I am sure that in the utilities folder I am referring to there was also an option to remaster to a usb drive and I think 2
other remastering options.
I have, however, found the menu editor, kmenuedit. It is still not on on any of my menus though, I have to run it from a terminal.

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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items.
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 07:00:12 AM »
scbs29,

1) certain utilities are automatically on the desktop when creating a new user (folder /home/<your account>/Desktop). You can recreate these entries by starting the Dolphin file manager and navigating to /usr/share/applications and copying the entries you need to a folder of your choice. These could be:

  • addlocale.desktop (Add Locale)
  • drakfirewall.desktop (Set up a firewall)
  • draknetcenter.desktop (Configure network)
  • getopenoffice.desktop (Get OpenOffice)
  • harddrake.desktop (Hardware configuration)
  • ...

You can then add a folder view widget on your desktop and point it to the location of the folder you used above.

2) If you want to edit the KDE menu, you first have to use "Unlock widgets". You can do this by right-clicking on the desktop and then selecting the mentioned option.

Then you can right-click on the starter icon (labeled "PC") and select the menu editor from the list.

Hope this helps

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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items.
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 07:09:55 AM »
See Tex's post re the Live USB

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,71045.msg583515.html#msg583515

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2) If you want to edit the KDE menu, you first have to use "Unlock widgets". You can do this by right-clicking on the desktop and then selecting the mentioned option.
Then you can right-click on the starter icon (labeled "PC") and select the menu editor from the list


tschommer I don't think it necessary to unlock the widgets to edit the menu, I believe just r/click will suffice (on my system anyway  :D )
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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items.
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 07:21:12 AM »
Thanks for the replies.
tschommer - widgets are already unlocked. Still no menu editor.
I don't want to remaster or create on a usb stick, I was just wondering why the remaster options etc were
not among my menus.
Still, never mind, I am still trying things out.
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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items. (Solved)
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 07:41:23 AM »
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Still no menu editor

Very odd - are you right clicking on the main PC (Kmenu) as that should give you the option to change to KickOff menu style and also the £Menu Editor!

If you can't see the PC KMenu try installing it by adding it from the widget (click the panel "Cashew" and Add Widgets and it should be under Application Launchers)

On a side note, if you wanted to remaster your setup (after you have it all done  ;D  ;D ) open the Konsole and:

su root
mylivecd --lzma livecd.iso




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Re: Disappearing desktop folder and menu items. (Solved)
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 09:01:44 AM »
Ah, that is where I was getting confused.
Up until now, the menu editor was an item in a menu off Kicker - Some configuration item. Now all of a sudden it is accessed by right click on the Kicker.

I am getting very confused with KDE4.  I was under the impression that Linux was moving more and more towards a gui and away
from a cli (I know that this is not correct because the cli needs to be available for those who want it, but I cannot at the moment think of a better way of putting it)  because that was one of the big 'sticking points' for people considering Linux. Now, again all of a sudden, with KDE4 there are at least 3 activities that no longer can be carried out through a gui, but must be done using the cli.
1. KPackage does not exist. rpms must be installed from the cli.
2. No more My Computer. Since the Device Manager widget which I gather is supposed to automount cds does not appear to work, at
least with my system, which crashes if I try to add the widget to a panel, cds must be mounted from the cli.
3. Remastering. It seems that this must also be used from the cli.
These 3 are the only ones I know about at present. Possible I will find more instances, possibly not.

I am determined to give the new PCLinuxOS with KDE4 a reasonable trial, but at present, although KDE4 is I think very smooth and slick,
most of the time it seems to stop me doing the things I did easily in KDE3.5. Also with KDE3.5 I did not keep getting messages
KDE Write Daemon.  Message from syslogd@localhost at date and time, localhost: do_IRQ: 0.83 No irq handler for vector (irq-1) which
no-one seems to know about. I did find a reference that is was connected to the ATI DRM in the kernel, followed by another reference from
the same person that contradicted this.



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