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Has grub changed?
« on: April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM »
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 12:03:48 AM »
Quote from: MCP on April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

MCP

FWIW, it is called menu.lst  Note it is a lower case "ell" not a number 1 and it is still located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
And no it is not empty.
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 12:39:40 AM »
I am not aware of any changes in GRUB. As a matter of fact, Tex posted somewhere that PCLOS is not adapting GRUB2 just yet.
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 10:37:50 AM »
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

MCP

FWIW, it is called menu.lst  Note it is a lower case "ell" not a number 1 and it is still located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
And no it is not empty.

Despite your corrections on my spelling, my menu.lst file IS EMPTY!  So where has it all gone?  That is my question.

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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 11:30:44 AM »
Quote from: MCP on April 18, 2010, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

MCP

FWIW, it is called menu.lst  Note it is a lower case "ell" not a number 1 and it is still located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
And no it is not empty.

Despite your corrections on my spelling, my menu.lst file IS EMPTY!  So where has it all gone?  That is my question.

MCP

On an normal system it is in /boot/grub/menu.lst

[danny@localhost ~]$ nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

timeout 3
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/gfxmenu
default 0

title pclinuxos2010
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=pclinuxos2010 root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID=1$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=LABEL=theroot  failsafe
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

If yours is empty than I might suggest there is something really wrong with your install.  How you are able to boot is beyond me.  Perhaps you could open a konsole window and issue the following command. It will look at your system and return a list off all the instances of menu.list. For example here is what I see.

[danny@localhost ~]$ locate menu.lst
/boot/grub/menu.lst

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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2010, 11:41:49 AM »
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 18, 2010, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

MCP

FWIW, it is called menu.lst  Note it is a lower case "ell" not a number 1 and it is still located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
And no it is not empty.

Despite your corrections on my spelling, my menu.lst file IS EMPTY!  So where has it all gone?  That is my question.

MCP

On an normal system it is in /boot/grub/menu.lst

[danny@localhost ~]$ nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

timeout 3
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/gfxmenu
default 0

title pclinuxos2010
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=pclinuxos2010 root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID=1$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=LABEL=theroot  failsafe
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

If yours is empty than I might suggest there is something really wrong with your install.  How you are able to boot is beyond me.  Perhaps you could open a konsole window and issue the following command. It will look at your system and return a list off all the instances of menu.list. For example here is what I see.

[danny@localhost ~]$ locate menu.lst
/boot/grub/menu.lst



That is the case with my previous install of PCLOS.  But with my new install (2010) that same file is blank.  So I can't edit it.  Seems all the necessary entries are stored someplace else. I just can't find where.  Anyone else experience this?

MCP
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 11:57:35 AM »
Open the folder /boot/grub   as root and then open menu.lst .....
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 12:06:17 PM »
Quote from: MCP on April 18, 2010, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 18, 2010, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: YouCanToo on April 18, 2010, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: MCP on April 17, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Has grub been changed?  I noticed that on my new install of 2010 menu.1st is a total blank.  Where did all the settings go?

MCP

FWIW, it is called menu.lst  Note it is a lower case "ell" not a number 1 and it is still located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
And no it is not empty.

Despite your corrections on my spelling, my menu.lst file IS EMPTY!  So where has it all gone?  That is my question.

MCP

On an normal system it is in /boot/grub/menu.lst

[danny@localhost ~]$ nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

timeout 3
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/gfxmenu
default 0

title pclinuxos2010
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=pclinuxos2010 root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=LABEL=theroot  resume=UUID=1$
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=LABEL=theroot  failsafe
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.img

If yours is empty than I might suggest there is something really wrong with your install.  How you are able to boot is beyond me.  Perhaps you could open a konsole window and issue the following command. It will look at your system and return a list off all the instances of menu.list. For example here is what I see.

[danny@localhost ~]$ locate menu.lst
/boot/grub/menu.lst



That is the case with my previous install of PCLOS.  But with my new install (2010) that same file is blank.  So I can't edit it.  Seems all the necessary entries are stored someplace else. I just can't find where.  Anyone else experience this?

MCP

So what did the command locate menu.lst show?



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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2010, 05:11:41 PM »
this is what he is asking about
on kde 2010 final i have to go to terminal
terminal as root=====dbus-launch kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst to see menu lst





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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2010, 05:24:04 PM »
When you don't have sufficient privileges text files appear blank in kwrite. 
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2010, 05:27:34 PM »
Quote from: arjaybe on April 18, 2010, 05:24:04 PM
When you don't have sufficient privileges text files appear blank in kwrite.  


installed and never had to get sufficient privileges  before

on my install menu lst is the only file that does not have edit as root on right click
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2010, 06:01:59 PM »
MCP:

Being as /boot/grub/menu.lst is a system file. it should be owned by root, and off limits to a regular user. To see the contents, open a terminal, and try this:

[polack@littleboy ~]$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[polack@littleboy ~]$ su
Password:
[root@littleboy polack]# cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
timeout 10
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
gfxmenu (hd0,13)/boot/gfxmenu
default 0

title MiniMe 2010
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=MiniMe_2010 root=LABEL=minime2010 resume=LABEL=swap1000 vga=791
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd.img

title MiniMe-nonfb
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=MiniMe-nonfb root=LABEL=minime2010 resume=LABEL=swap1000
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd.img

title MiniMe-failsafe
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=MiniMe-failsafe root=LABEL=minime2010 failsafe
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd.img

title linux
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=LABEL=minime2010 resume=LABEL=swap1000 vga=791
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd.img

title MiniMe 2.6.33.2-pclos1.bfs
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33.2-pclos1.bfs BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.33.2-pclos1.bfs root=LABEL=minime2010 resume=LABEL=swap1000 vga=791
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd-2.6.33.2-pclos1.bfs.img

title MiniMe 2.6.32.11-pclos2
kernel (hd0,13)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.11-pclos2 BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.32.11-pclos2 root=LABEL=minime2010 resume=LABEL=swap1000 vga=791
initrd (hd0,13)/boot/initrd-2.6.32.11-pclos2.img
[root@littleboy polack]# exit
exit
[polack@littleboy ~]$
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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2010, 07:38:49 PM »
Thank You I will try that.  But what has been messing up my mind is that in 2009.2 I can view all of the entries in menu.lst.

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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2010, 07:45:10 PM »
Quote from: old-polack on April 18, 2010, 06:01:59 PM
MCP:

Being as /boot/grub/menu.lst is a system file. it should be owned by root, and off limits to a regular user.
...

o-p, this must be something new, no?  I have always been able to see and open menu.lst as a user.  I could even edit it, but could not save it in /boot/grub/ because I was not root.  But if I had forgotten that I couldn't save it there, and had made changes I wanted to save, I could Save it to my home folder or somewhere else I had permission to write to and then copy it to /boot/grub/ later as root.

This was in PCLinuxOS versions prior to 2010, in KDE3.  I don't have 2010 installed yet.  I had a Beta installed, but I repartitioned and plan to install the final for testing tomorrow.

Just curious.

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Re: Has grub changed?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2010, 07:50:13 PM »
Old menu.lst permissions;



New menu.lst permissions;



As root you can change the permissions, if you wish.
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