(SOLVED!)problems with pclinux kde4 2010

[T6]

i decided to install minime but it wasn't cooperating so i installed the bigger version

after installing some packages i can't run compiz

i don't have transparency but in pcc i have it enabled, right driver selected, compiz ran perfectly without emerald on mnime but after installing it it stopped running so i decided to try again in the full version but with same results

synaptic refuses to run from kmenu but from konsole runs perfectly

[j@localhost ~]$ synaptic

(synaptic:10689): libglade-WARNING **: could not look up stock id 'Preferences'

(synaptic:10689): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_hide: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
dist upgrade Failed

can't remove, update or install anything, all it say is this

Could not apply changes!
Fix broken packages first.

when attempting to fix broken packages it says this

E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies

first time pclinux gives me so many problems simultaneously(considering pclinux 2009.1 with kde4.3.4 was working well)

any help appreciated

[T6]

i forgot to post what compiz say in konsole

[j@localhost ~]$ fusion-icon
 * Detected Session: kde
 * Searching for installed applications...
 * No GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap with direct rendering context
 ... present with indirect rendering, exporting: LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1
 * Using the GTK Interface
 * Starting Compiz
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/fusion-icon", line 58, in <module>
    choose_interface(try_first=options.interface)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/interface.py", line 89, in choose_interface
    import_interface(chosen_interface)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/interface.py", line 35, in import_interface
    __import__('FusionIcon.interface_%s' %interface)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/interface_gtk/__init__.py", line 3, in <module>
    import main
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/interface_gtk/main.py", line 213, in <module>
    init()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/start.py", line 34, in init
    wms.start()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/util.py", line 154, in start
    run(self[self.old].killcmd, 'call')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/FusionIcon/execute.py", line 41, in run
    exitcode = subprocess.call(command, stderr=subprocess.PIPE)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 444, in call
    return Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs).wait()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 594, in __init__
    errread, errwrite)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 1091, in _execute_child
    raise child_exception
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory

finally could run synaptic, it wasn't playing well with the windows style but gtk theme switch set qt and fixed it

now jdownloader after a update decided that java was corrupt 

[T6]

jdownloader works perfectly in e17, don't know what to do other than decide to jump into e17 or gnome, can't work with kde4 like this

[Old-Polack]

jdownloader works perfectly in e17, don't know what to do other than decide to jump into e17 or gnome, can't work with kde4 like this

Is this "Mr. KDE3 is dead, KDE4 is the future" I'm quoting? 

[muungwana]

did you try to update from the terminal? The terminal is usually much more informative when things dont work as expected

from the terminal, as root, type these two commands and copy and paste the error msg you get, if you get any

apt-get update

apt-get dist-upgrade

[djohnston]

I found 12 updates waiting as soon as I installed MiniMe. Did you get your updates first? Just a thought.

I still haven't run KDE4 on anything other than VBox. I may end up switching all my desktops to e17. Old dog, new tricks kinda thing.

[deancicca]

jdownloader works perfectly in e17, don't know what to do other than decide to jump into e17 or gnome, can't work with kde4 like this

Is this "Mr. KDE3 is dead, KDE4 is the future" I'm quoting? 

Sorry, can't resist     

[Andy Axnot]

jdownloader works perfectly in e17, don't know what to do other than decide to jump into e17 or gnome, can't work with kde4 like this

Is this "Mr. KDE3 is dead, KDE4 is the future" I'm quoting? 

Exactly what I was wondering! 

Andy

[T6]

"Is this "Mr. KDE3 is dead, KDE4 is the future" I'm quoting?"

i can't believe that a forum moderator gives this kind of answers

i believe i used the right section of the forum, /help/software, not in the sandbox

being one of the forum members hat helped users to try kde4 and find options to kde3(gnome, e17, lxde and xfce4 between others) your comments are completely out of place and just shows to new members that make fun of a old user that required the help of the community is the right thing to do, bravo!

when you come to the forum asking for help you don't expect this comments, not at least in this forum but seems to be that i was wrong

seeing other users sharing the same opinion, a desire of make fun of a user that needs help and a forum moderator leaving it happen says alot and to be honest i don't like what i see, specially since this post is done in software section, not in sandbox

i am having many problems with kde4.4.2 that i didn't experienced in kde 4.3.4 and seeing the comments just point the fact that people doesn't want to abandon kde3 and honestly i don't care anymore, i wanted to share the excellent experience i was having with kde 4.3.4 but that seems to be a absurd dream, this is how a forum member stop helping others, i'm thinking that this forum could not be what i wanted it to be, a place to find help and help others, also share opinions and form time to time in the right place share a laugh

thanks for the reply muungwana

"did you try to update from the terminal?"

no but in one of the attempts when synaptic decided not to run i opened it from terminal and i couldn't find any specific reason to fail the package remove, it seems that it was kde-multimedia package, after that i was able to remove compiz and other apps that wasn't letting me update system

running apt, this is what happens

[root@localhost j]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010 release [2338B]
Fetched 2338B in 0s (2970B/s)
Get:1 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/main pkglist [3137kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/main release [161B]                                               
Hit http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/updates pkglist                                                     
Get:3 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/updates release [157B]                                           
Hit http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/nonfree pkglist                                                     
Get:4 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/nonfree release [161B]                                           
Get:5 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/kde4 pkglist [158kB]                                             
Get:6 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/kde4 release [158B]                                               
Hit http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/games pkglist                                                       
Get:7 http://ftp.heanet.ie pclinuxos/2010/games release [155B]                                             
Fetched 3297kB in 29s (112kB/s)                                                                             
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done

with dist upgrade this is what shows

[root@localhost j]# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded
  dmsetup emerald gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-soup libdevmapper-event1.02 libdevmapper1.02 libemerald0
  libgstbasevideo0.10_0 libgstphotography0.10_0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10 libraw1394_8
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgmime2.4_2
The following packages have been kept back
  gthumb
14 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 removed and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 4959kB of archives.
After unpacking 764kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

i don't know if proceed, the package not upgraded, not sure what to do next, maybe abort is the best

thanks for the reply djohnston

"I found 12 updates waiting as soon as I installed MiniMe. Did you get your updates first? Just a thought."

yes, i updated in minime but had no useful results, in this installation i updated too but couldn't find a update for compiz or for any other thing related to kde and video card

my video card is a ati radeon 9200 se, 128 mbs of ram, it is using the driver ati radeon x1950 and earlier, my video card is not supported anymore so i can't use another driver, this is the driver i was using in kde4.3.4 in pclinux 2009.1 updated and all was working perfectly until i installed minime and now full version

the good thing is that i'm using e17, incredibly stable and fast, i feel out of place using it but enjoying the experience, who knows, maybe i will stay in e17, it has more bling bling than kde4 without my intervention/edition

[MaddogF16]

That is true T6, e17 gives some good eye candy for those whose cards may not be supported anymore or at least on a OpenGL level. Have you installed the module called "bling" in E17 if not try it, it gives transparency and other cool things.

[muungwana]

when you come to the forum asking for help you don't expect this comments, not at least in this forum but seems to be that i was wrong

in fairness, you presented a problem and added a little bit of negative opinions. To express a negative opinion without expecting one back is asking a bit too much from some of us and this is why i always ask people to refrain from injecting opinions when presenting problems. There should be a rule against this

can we now go back to try to solve your problems? the final iso is due to be announced soon and solving your problem could help in making it a little bit more for the rest of us.

[muungwana]

apt-get doesnt seem to be complaining anymore. Does it mean you have this problem fixed? you might need to check why gthumb was held back?

you mentioned a couple of problems in your thread and its hard to follow all of them. Your java problem is most likely not a kde4 problem and should show up on all desktops. The problem could be a missing "java-home" variable set in other iso.

[T6]

"in fairness, you presented a problem and added a little bit of negative opinions."

to be honest i don't see how i was negative and if i was, it wasn't my intention but, after two consecutive installations giving problems you get some bad mood usually

i was very negative in other post when my scanner didn't worked but finally got it sorted, i will delete that post once i can find it

"the final iso is due to be announced soon and solving your problem could help in making it a little bit more for the rest of us. "

the iso is there afik and i'm using it so the announcement is just a formality, if i accidentally i'm using a beta, it had a different name and is working identically to minime but beta didn't gave me other errors i am having, maybe i should install a beta but didn't had hard disk space atm

this is where i got the iso

http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/english/preview/

i found the same file in ibiblio repo and yes, in minime and in final i did md5 checksum and had 0 problems when installing

about the 1 package not upgraded is gthumbs, it asks brasero and other stuff, i haven't installed gnome yet so that is why it is complaining, i think, it just updated emerald and other stuff, i will restart and log in back to kde4

the good thing is that with this installation i could fix two problems i had, sporadic hangs/freeze of the system(hard reset required without any warning) and now i have 74 gbs for / (i don't use /home partition)

"you mentioned a couple of problems in your thread and its hard to follow all of them. Your java problem is most likely not a kde4 problem and should show up on all desktops"

the java happened after jdownloader upgraded itself and it won't work in kde4 but in e17 is working perfectly and in fact it loads so fast, i'm scared!!

in kde4 it takes ages to load

definitively e17 is a true gem, it is becoming very fast one of the best desktop environments existing, it is a shame i only played with it for a couple of minutes now and then

[muungwana]

a gnome package is being prevented from updating because it is missing its dependencies. compiz for all practical purposes is a gnome application and it doesnt work as expected on your system. Maybe its problems is due to missed gnome packages?

[muungwana]

"the final iso is due to be announced soon and solving your problem could help in making it a little bit more for the rest of us. "

the iso is there afik and i'm using it so the announcement is just a formality

do you follow pclinuxos twitter/identi.ca channel?