Live CD won't install

[daveysprocketbrew]

I'm able to test drive the live CD just fine from a USB, but when I go to install, the installer pops up, asks for password authentification.  When I do that, the installer launches and you can hit "next".  Once I hit next the screen disappears and never comes back.  Any idea what is going on?  I've even waited and waited, rebooted, etc.  No error messages.  Any help would be appreciated.

[Was_Just19]

Instead of using the icon to launch the installer open a terminal, su and root password to get root privileges and then
/usr/sbin/draklive-install   <enter>

If something goes wrong copy and paste the error from the terminal into your next post.

regards.

[newklear]

Similiar situation as daveysprocketbrew so will just post here instead of duplicating a thread with similiar content.

I have been trying to install the new 2010 LXDE Full, this is what I receive:

1. On boot-up running the live CD: "Error: Unable to establish connection with FAM. Do you have FAM or Gamin running?"
- Can press enter and get to the Desktop which is blank.. the taskbar loads, no icons on the desktop.

2. Using the the taskbar menu to run the draklive installer replicates exactly what daveysprocketbrew has described.
2.1 As per JohnBoy's request:

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[guest@localhost ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@localhost ~]# /usr/sbin/draklive-install
/media/ user
Backtrace has 11 calls on stack:
  11: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_assert+0x29) [0xb7390b29]
  10: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73c5cd5]
  9: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73c6b47]
  8: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73c7f2a]
  7: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73954be]
  6: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_disk_add_partition+0x271) [0xb7398e11]
  5: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73c9851]
  4: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0 [0xb73c9a6e]
  3: /usr/lib/libparted.so.0(ped_disk_new+0x79) [0xb7399c49]
  2: /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/c/stuff/stuff.so(XS_c__stuff_get_disk_type+0x1e6) [0xb742fb91]
  1: /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so(Perl_pp_entersub+0x56e) [0xb78191ee]
A bug has been detected in GNU Parted.  Refer to the web site of parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html for more information of what could be useful for bug submitting!  Please email a bug report to bug-parted@gnu.org containing at least the version (2.2) and the following message:  Assertion (head_size <= 63) at dos.c:659 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed.
Aborted
Please kindly assist with ideas or requests.
Do I need to submit a bug report to GNU ?

[Old-Polack]

newklear:

Being as others are installing this release without similar errors, odds are you have a bad download or bad burn from the image.

In order, do an md5sum check of the d/l image. If correct, do the burn at the lowest speed your burner allows, don't use the auto option; that burns at the fastest speed. Check the md5sum of the burned disk.

[prompt]$ md5sum /dev/<whatever>          <Enter>

Replace the <whatever> with the correct device designation for the optical device the disk is in.

Run the media check from the boot menu when booting to the disk. If all these checks show the disk to be in proper order, the installation should work.

If you still have difficulties, you need to check your physical hardware, and your partition table for errors.

[newklear]

newklear:

Being as others are installing this release without similar errors, odds are you have a bad download or bad burn from the image.

In order, do an md5sum check of the d/l image. If correct, do the burn at the lowest speed your burner allows, don't use the auto option; that burns at the fastest speed. Check the md5sum of the burned disk.

[prompt]$ md5sum /dev/<whatever>          <Enter>

Replace the <whatever> with the correct device designation for the optical device the disk is in.

Run the media check from the boot menu when booting to the disk. If all these checks show the disk to be in proper order, the installation should work.

If you still have difficulties, you need to check your physical hardware, and your partition table for errors.

Oops, I should have first mentioned that I did check the md5sum before writing:

[zerg@localhost Downloads]$ md5sum pclinuxos-lxde-2010.iso

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a901316897ef90cd02c563d9ae4ba45b  pclinuxos-lxde-2010.iso
I have written two CD's using Xfburn both at x8 speed to make sure, I can try download the ISO again but it does take me 10 hours to do so at a bit of a cost [dialup].

checking both cd's I receive this:
[zerg@localhost /]$ md5sum /dev/cdrom pclinuxos-lxde-2010.iso

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md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error
md5sum: pclinuxos-lxde-2010.iso: No such file or directory
Contents of CD:
[zerg@localhost cdrom]$ ls

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boot/  isolinux/  livecd.sqfs
I couldn't pick up any errors when running "media check"

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The media check of the image:                           │
         │                                                            │
         │    /dev/cdrom                                              │
         │                                                            │
         │    is complete, and the result is: PASS.                   │
         │                                                            │
         │    It is OK to install from this media.
Both 2009 and 2010 beta2 Live CD's run and install just fine.

Should I Redownload the ISO ?
Thanks again

[newklear]

Went ahead and downloaded the LXDE 2010 ISO again, was very careful to make sure md5sum matched, wrote to a good quality CD @ 8x speed. I can confidently say that I do not think it is a download or cd burn error as I have downloaded the ISO twice and burned 3 CD's now.

As for my physical hardware, and partition table, I did not find any errors and as previously stated I am able to install 2009 and 2010 beta2 without any glitches.

My only worry now is that "2009 repo's will be frozen?" and when I do try update the 2010 beta2, after update install I am unable to load up 2010 beta2. I just hope I am not stuck on 2009 without any further updates and a 2010 beta2 edition that I also cannot update.

I am still experiencing exactly the same issues that daveysprocketbrew and myself have described in the first two posts.

*Just a note:
"Error: Unable to establish connection with FAM. Do you have FAM or Gamin running?"
^^ Fixed this by right clicking on desktop: Desktop Settings > Desktop > "Checked" 'Manage the desktop and show file icons'

[menotu]

Have you tried logging in as ROOT and installing from there?

[Old-Polack]

newklear:

Just a FYI.

This command is wrong, and not the one I gave you.

[zerg@localhost /]$ md5sum /dev/cdrom pclinuxos-lxde-2010.iso

It should not include the part in blue.

[zerg@localhost /]$ md5sum /dev/cdrom

The image you checked did in fact have the correct md5sum, so the image was correct and did not need to be downloaded again. The media check was also positive, so the disk does appear to be fine, and the solution lies elsewhere.

Someone else having this installation problem turned out to have partition overlaps as the primary cause of the problem. From a root terminal;

[root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l         <Enter>   <-- That's a lower case L not a number 1.

Post your results, so we can check your existing partition table.

[daveysprocketbrew]

Since my original post, which was for the Gnome version (I forgot to mention that), the KDE version came out.  That version installed flawlessly (and quickly) on my 10 year old machine.  I thought its heaviness might bog down my machine, but I haven't noticed that yet.  I'll compare it to LXDE and E-17 before deciding on what to stick with.  They are all so good......too many wonderful choices!!!

[newklear]

Thank you for the follow-up and info old-polack
Uh-oh *gets worried* .. my partitions overlap don't they ?

Should I just reformat the whole disk and try reinstall 2010-LXDE clean ? I know 2009 works great and is no biggy in setting up again unless I just backup and restore later.
Please advise and thank you very much for time.

[root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x161e161d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1        5098    40949653+   5  Extended
/dev/hda2            9475        9729     2048287+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda5               1        2549    20474779+  83  Linux
/dev/hda6            2550        5098    20474811   83  Linux
# ^^ 40GB un-assigned, first 20GB has pclos 2009, second 20GB had pclos 2010beta2 which I have just formatted to ext3.

Disk /dev/hdc: 4311 MB, 4311982080 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 524 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9e8a2a98

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1             397         524     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sda: 4005 MB, 4005560320 bytes
21 heads, 21 sectors/track, 17740 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 441 * 512 = 225792 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00061334

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *          19       17741     3907648    b  W95 FAT32
Sorry for hi-jacking your thread daveysprocketbrew

[Old-Polack]

Thank you for the follow-up and info old-polack
Uh-oh *gets worried* .. my partitions overlap don't they ?

Should I just reformat the whole disk and try reinstall 2010-LXDE clean ? I know 2009 works great and is no biggy in setting up again unless I just backup and restore later.
Please advise and thank you very much for time.

[root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x161e161d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1        5098    40949653+   5  Extended
/dev/hda2            9475        9729     2048287+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda5               1        2549    20474779+  83  Linux
/dev/hda6            2550        5098    20474811   83  Linux
# ^^ 40GB un-assigned, first 20GB has pclos 2009, second 20GB had pclos 2010beta2 which I have just formatted to ext3.

Disk /dev/hdc: 4311 MB, 4311982080 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 524 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9e8a2a98

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1             397         524     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sda: 4005 MB, 4005560320 bytes
21 heads, 21 sectors/track, 17740 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 441 * 512 = 225792 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00061334

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *          19       17741     3907648    b  W95 FAT32
Sorry for hi-jacking your thread daveysprocketbrew

Well, they don't actually overlap, but why did you make the first partition an extended partition? Also, if this was intentional, it should cover the whole drive space. Normally one of two basic layouts is used. The Windows basic layout has the first partition as a primary partition, then the second set as an extended partition, covering the remainder of the drive, all additional partitions are logical partitions within the extended container.

The other traditional method is to create up to 4 primary partitions, and if more than 4 partitions are needed, to make the fourth primary partition the extended partition, again covering the entire remainder of the drive, then creating however many additional patitions are needed as logical ones, within the extended container.

As an example, one of my hard drive's partition table.

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Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1          39      313236   83  Linux
/dev/sda2              40        1047     8096760   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3            1048        7127    48837600   83  Linux
/dev/sda4            7128      121601   817435395    5  Extended
/dev/sda5            7128       20500   107418591   83  Linux
/dev/sda6           20501       33267   102550896   83  Linux
/dev/sda7           33268       37158    31254426   83  Linux
/dev/sda8           37159       41049    31254426   83  Linux
/dev/sda9           41050       44940    31254426   83  Linux
/dev/sda10          44941       48831    31254426   83  Linux
/dev/sda11          48832       61886   104864256   83  Linux
/dev/sda12          61887      101050   314584798+  83  Linux
/dev/sda13         101051      104942    31262458+  83  Linux
/dev/sda14         104943      108893    31736376   83  Linux

Primary partitions reserve the numbers 1-4, Logical partitions always start with 5. With older kernels IDE drives can have a total of 63 partitions, SATA and SCSI drives can have a maximum of 15. With the new kernels, all drives are seen as SCSI, so all drives are limited to 15 partitions; size doesn't matter.

My first primary partition is a boot partition, used to boot all of my OS from a single place; it's about 300 MB on this drive. Next there is a primary swap partition that is shared by all the OS on the drive. The third primary partition holds a / partition for the first OS installed on the drive. Primary partition 4 is the extended partition which acts as a container for all my logical partitions, sda5-15. At present I have used 14 of my allowed 15 partitions and have empty space still available. I've obviously used the traditional layout, as all my partitions arrange themselves numerically and in logical sequence, based on their physical location on the drive. There are no overlaps between partitions, so I have no problems whatever in installing an OS to any partition I may choose.

Looking at your present partitions on /dev/hda, I'd go for the blank the drive and repartition option.

[newklear]

Thank you old-polack, you have helped me to get a much better understanding of partitions.
That was a very nice way of explaining, I am going to take your advice and start-a-fresh.
I don't know what I was doing before, but I have a much better idea now.

I just backed-up all I need on 2009 (just in case) and will start from scratch with 2010.. thank you once again very much for your time and patience

[cstrike77]

Sorry to hi-jack original post, having the same problems here installing LXDE 2010.

Celeron 600 laptop, 128 meg memory. <-- Methinks lack of memory be the culprit!

I've downloaded the ISO 3 times, one browser, two FTP. Browser and 1 FTP from indiana.edu mirror, other FTP from Debian mirror.

I hardly ever have an error in an ISO. Had to bum 2.17 to get a 4 pack of cds, and went thru them all to get one cd that passed.

Tried su from term to install, no joy it vanishes with no error message.

Going to try the right click on desktop to see if that might work, not going to format the drive and then have to re-install ___dows cause that takes too long on this ancient junkpile.

And also wondering if even at an 8X burn on this 24X drive might have something to do with it. All other linux ISO's I've burned have been under ***** linux, but the drives so small I can't get the ISO on it with the OS installed. Anything other than 8X errors out/fails.

Any ideas? Or will there be updates of the ISO's and I'll wait till then?

Tks all!

UPDATE:

Finally got installer to install, but taskbar vanishes. So I'm pulling the trigger to wait.

[newklear]

I have been doing alot of trialling and erroring and am still unable to install 2010 LXDE.
I have tried to follow Old-polackś setup as close as possible and now this is my current fdisk on the drive I have been trying to install 2010 LXDE on:

[root@protoss ~]# fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x161e161d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1          38      305203+  83  Linux <---boot
/dev/hda2              39         547     4088542+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3             548        4371    30716280   83  Linux <--- 2009 lxde ext3
/dev/hda4            4372        9728    43030102+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5            4372        8195    30716248+  83  Linux
When booting up off the 2010 LXDE Live CD, eveything has full functionality except for:
1. I have tested on another computer with exactly the same errors when trying to install.
2. The Install option which closes once itś time to read the partitions.
3. PPC > Manage Disks which also shuts down.

Ok fair enough 2010 LXDE refuses to work on two of my PCś, I am prepared to accept that as I am very very fond of PCLinuxOS LXDE.
I am not sure what else to do but will report the bug to GNU as it states in the error message.

Is it safe to continue using 2009 or 2010 beta2 and have full access to the updates in future? Or should I rather install miniME 2010 and set it up as a LXDE DE ?

Thanks once again for everyoneś input and time.

[Old-Polack]

I have been doing alot of trialling and erroring and am still unable to install 2010 LXDE.
I have tried to follow Old-polackś setup as close as possible and now this is my current fdisk on the drive I have been trying to install 2010 LXDE on:

[root@protoss ~]# fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x161e161d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1          38      305203+  83  Linux <---boot
/dev/hda2              39         547     4088542+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3             548        4371    30716280   83  Linux <--- 2009 lxde ext3
/dev/hda4            4372        9728    43030102+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5            4372        8195    30716248+  83  Linux
When booting up off the 2010 LXDE Live CD, eveything has full functionality except for:
1. I have tested on another computer with exactly the same errors when trying to install.
2. The Install option which closes once itś time to read the partitions.
3. PPC > Manage Disks which also shuts down.

Ok fair enough 2010 LXDE refuses to work on two of my PCś, I am prepared to accept that as I am very very fond of PCLinuxOS LXDE.
I am not sure what else to do but will report the bug to GNU as it states in the error message.

Is it safe to continue using 2009 or 2010 beta2 and have full access to the updates in future? Or should I rather install miniME 2010 and set it up as a LXDE DE ?

Thanks once again for everyoneś input and time.

From what are you getting this fdisk -l output; LXDE 2009 version? What does the output look like from the new LXDE liveCD?

I'm currently running the MiniMe 2010 installation here. The basic under structure of all the liveCDs should be the same, using the same installer, so MiniMe may not install either. If it does install, you could indeed install task-lxde and run that from the Sessions options.

Try with the MiniMe installation, and definitely keep us informed.

If you really can't get any of the new releases to install on that machine, but have a working LXDE beta release, there may be rough spots but it might be possible to get it upgraded to current. If you can get to the current state of the repos without blowing up the installation, you should then be able to continue using that installation indefinitely. I still have a pre 2007 TR4 installation running, updated to when the old repo was frozen. There were some sticky spots along the way, but I got past them. I've also got a number of other older installations that I'm still running, and am not particularly worried about their safety, only that there will be no application upgrades available through Synaptic in the future. For now, everything I want is installed and working well, so if I want newer apps in the future, I'll deal with that when the time comes. There are always "ways" once the OS is no longer supported.